Trump attempts to deflect attention over Epstein files

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Magical Realist Offline
Everything Trump does is exactly what someone would do if they were trying to hide something. Pretty much an admission of guilt..

WASHINGTON, Nov 14 (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department said on Friday it will fulfill President Donald Trump's request to investigate Jeffrey Epstein's ties with former Democratic President Bill Clinton and JPMorgan (JPM.N), opens new tab, as Trump sought to shift the focus from his relationship with the convicted sex offender.

The move comes two days after a congressional committee released thousands of documents that raised new questions about Trump's relationship with the late financier, and marks the latest in a series of demands by Trump for federal law enforcement to pursue his perceived political enemies.

Attorney General Pam Bondi said Jay Clayton, the top federal prosecutor in Manhattan, will lead the investigation.

The Epstein scandal has been a political thorn in Trump’s side for months, partly because he amplified conspiracy theories about Epstein to his own supporters. Many Trump voters believe Bondi and other Trump officials have covered up Epstein’s ties to powerful figures and obscured details surrounding his death by suicide in a Manhattan jail in 2019.

Trump has harnessed the Justice Department to target other perceived political enemies, notably former FBI Director James Comey and New York State Attorney General Letitia James, both of whom were charged after Trump replaced the prosecutor leading the cases.

'NOT HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK'

Legal experts say Trump's demands could undermine the criminal cases that emerge from those probes, as judges can dismiss cases found to be motivated by "vindictive prosecution" - which both Comey and James have raised, though judges have not yet ruled on their requests to dismiss the cases.

Patrick J. Cotter, a former federal prosecutor, said it was "outrageously inappropriate" for Trump to order the department to investigate individual citizens, adding, "That's not how it's supposed to work."

Along with Clinton, who socialized with Epstein in the early 2000s, Trump said he had asked the Justice Department to investigate former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, and Reid Hoffman, the LinkedIn founder who is also a prominent Democratic donor. All three men were mentioned in the 20,000 Epstein-related documents released by the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday.

"Epstein was a Democrat, and he is the Democrat’s problem, not the Republican’s problem!" Trump wrote on social media. "They all know about him, don't waste your time with Trump. I have a Country to run!"

JPMorgan said in a statement the U.S. bank regrets its past association with Epstein, who was a client between 1998 and 2013, and did not help him commit "heinous acts."

Clinton and Summers did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Hoffman could not be immediately reached for comment.

The Justice Department's decision to acquiesce to Trump's demand came despite a July memo in which the department and the FBI said there was no "evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties" in the Epstein case.


"This systematic review revealed no incriminating 'client list,'" the memo said. "There was also no credible evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions."

TRUMP FACES CONTINUED PRESSURE OVER EPSTEIN

Trump and Epstein were friends during the 1990s and the 2000s, but Trump says he broke off ties before Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to charges of soliciting a minor for prostitution.
Trump has consistently denied knowing about the late financier’s abuse and sex trafficking of underage girls. Still, some of Trump's most ardent supporters have accused his administration of a cover-up. Trump, who frequently engages with reporters, has declined to take questions over the last several days as new revelations about Epstein have become public.

The Republican-controlled House of Representatives is expected to vote next week on legislation that would force the Justice Department to release all of the material it holds on Epstein, who was facing federal charges of sex trafficking minors at the time of his suicide. The measure is expected to pass, even after House Speaker Mike Johnson repeatedly maneuvered to try to block the vote. It would also require the Senate to pass similar legislation and Trump's approval to compel the Justice Department to act.

Just four in 10 Republicans in an October Reuters/Ipsos poll said they approved of Trump's handling of the Epstein files, well below the nine in 10 who approve of his overall performance in the White House.

TRUMP 'TRYING TO DISTRACT'

"Trump is clearly desperately trying to distract from his own presence in the Epstein emails," said Alan Rozenshtein, a University of Minnesota law professor and former Justice Department lawyer.
JPMorgan paid $290 million in 2023 to some of Epstein's victims to settle accusations that it had turned a blind eye to his sex trafficking. The deal followed embarrassing disclosures that JPMorgan ignored internal warnings and overlooked red flags about a valued client. The bank did not admit wrongdoing in the settlement.

No credible evidence has surfaced that Clinton, Summers or Hoffman were involved in Epstein's sex trafficking. All have previously denied wrongdoing and have expressed regret about their relationships with him.

Clinton flew on Epstein's private jet several times before the financier's 2008 conviction, while Summers accepted philanthropic gifts from Epstein while serving as president of Harvard University. Hoffman has acknowledged meeting with Epstein multiple times in professional situations.
Before his 2008 conviction, Epstein worked and socialized with a long list of well-known figures, including the UK's former Prince Andrew, who was stripped of his royal title due in part to his association with Epstein.

Clayton, the prosecutor who will head the probe into Clinton, JPMorgan and the other figures, is a political independent who chaired the Securities and Exchange Commission during Trump's first White House term."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-s...025-11-14/
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C C Offline
(Nov 15, 2025 02:42 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Everything Trump does is exactly what someone would do if they were trying to hide something. Pretty much an admission of guilt...

Also, what Trump usually does when someone has a vendetta against him: Turn the tables. Epstein did have plenty of connections to Democrats (Clinton especially), so there was always a risk of the snake biting the other way if trying to coax it toward Trump.
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(NOV 14) Trump to ask DOJ to probe Jeffrey Epstein involvement with Clinton, JPMorgan, Summers
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/14/trump-do...mmers.html

KEY POINTS: President Donald Trump says he is asking the Department of Justice to investigate relationships between his former longtime friend Jeffrey Epstein and others. Trump named former President Bill Clinton, JPMorgan Chase, ex-Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, and Reid Hoffman as people he wants the DOJ to probe for their dealings with Epstein. In a 2018 email released this week by a House committee, Epstein refers to former personal lawyer Michael Cohen pleading guilty charges related to hush money payments on behalf of Trump, and writes, “I know how dirty donald is.”
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(NOV 12) Jeffrey Epstein on Trump: ‘I know how dirty donald is’
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/12/trump-je...crats.html

EXCERPT: White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt, in a statement Wednesday, said, “The Democrats selectively leaked emails to the liberal media to create a fake narrative to smear President Trump.”

“The ‘unnamed victim’ referenced in these emails is the late Virginia Giuffre, who repeatedly said President Trump was not involved in any wrongdoing whatsoever and ‘couldn’t have been friendlier’ to her in their limited interactions,” Leavitt said.

“The fact remains that President Trump kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of his club decades ago for being a creep to his female employees, including Giuffre,” Leavitt said.

“These stories are nothing more than bad-faith efforts to distract from President Trump’s historic accomplishments, and any American with common sense sees right through this hoax and clear distraction from the government opening back up again.”

[...] “The more Donald Trump tries to cover up the Epstein files, the more we uncover. These latest emails and correspondence raise glaring questions about what else the White House is hiding and the nature of the relationship between Epstein and the President,” said Rep. Robert Garcia, a California Democrat who is the ranking member of the House oversight committee.

“The Department of Justice must fully release the Epstein files to the public immediately,” Garcia said. “The Oversight Committee will continue pushing for answers and will not stop until we get justice for the victims.”
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Magical Realist Offline
By starting an investigation into Epstein associates Trump has effectively ensured the files won't be released now even at the mandate of Congress. "They're evidence in an ongoing investigation" will be the new excuse for not releasing them. Like his unreleased tax returns and the endlessly repeated "they're being audited" excuse.
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Syne Offline
The emails the Dems in congress released were a huge nothing. Just more partisan witch hunt.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
Quote: Everything Trump does is exactly what someone would do if they were trying to hide something. Pretty much an admission of guilt..

Personally I wouldn’t believe any claim put forward by a person known to willfully disregard owning the burden of proof.

Is this just another self evident assumption or presumption made that is unproven, unsubstantiated, groundless and baseless, lacking in supportive evidence?

Hitchens: What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

Anonymous: All credibility, all good conscience, all evidence of truth come only from the senses. Once you lose your credibility, you can never restore it. Transparency increases credibility and accountability. If there's anything that's important to a reporter, it is integrity.
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Syne Offline
The Democratic Socialists are the only ones who've claimed releasing the Epstein files would collapse the government.
Makes sense, since they are the ones who are most rooting for the collapse of the government, so they'll take any excuse they can get to accomplish it.
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C C Offline
It was disclosed way back when Epstein and Maxwell were prosecuted that there was no client list. This is a side effect of bringing independents and estranged Democrats into your camp who have a conspiracy addicted mindset. Who can never be satisfied with releases pertaining to this subject, anymore than they can be with UFO releases that fail to quell their desire for space alien bodies and reverse engineered spaceships. Sure, the extra numbers help you win elections, but the cost is having moonstruck people in your own camp infinitely pushing for information that doesn't exist. In addition to the Democratic Party proper doing their purely politically motivated thing.

OTOH, since Bondi is chasing after Democrats, it is information pertaining to them that would likely be redacted in the documents. Thus, creating the impression (for the independent conspiracy mindset) that they are the ones being protected. That would be Trump's switcheroo in all this, if he was really being strategic.

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2WAY: "It's hard to for Democrats to explain why they didn't pursue Epstein files" during Biden's term.
https://youtu.be/R6kWfFpOZEs

VIDEO EXCERPTS: Dan, Democrats, again, it's hard for them to explain why they didn't pursue this when Joe Biden was president. They weren't demanding the documents, right?

Obviously, it's not a cheap shot to say there is some politics involved.

[...] Pam Bondi started investigations into Democrats ... in any ongoing investigation there is information that could be ... withheld, on top of the redactions. Some stuff may be blacked out...

[...] If the president's right, it's all about Democrats, why bury it?

Well, it's not. Of course, that's just a talking point.

[...] Politico has a blind quote from a Trump person who says, "Everybody in the conspiracy world on the left and the right thinks there's some secret list of a pedophile ring with blackmail and names and dates and all that." And this person says there isn't.

Now, I suspect that if there was, the Biden Justice Department would have prosecuted it, but they didn't.

[...] you're never going to release enough. ... The president's absolutely right on this. The more you release, the more people are going to say, "Well, there's more and you're hiding it."

They need to just explain it. Here's what exists. Here's what we can release. Here's what we can't. Here's what the witness statements look like.

Until you give context to this, people are going to start going off on wild goose chases ... I would just pull the band-aid off on this thing...

https://youtu.be/R6kWfFpOZEs

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/R6kWfFpOZEs
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stryder Offline
There is another angle why Trump didn't want to release information originally.

Trump's Memoirs for this current term. In other words holding onto a cache of data to be inserted into a book would of guaranteed that book would sell. He would of had the exclusive rights over the material.

That would of also caused further problems though as another angle is having material that could be held over people. Therefore going public with the information means that no one can use the cache of data as dirt on anyone else, as it all comes out in the wash. (I guess it won't be used by Trump as a bargaining chip now)
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Syne Offline
That doesn't explain why a Biden memoir with this info hasn't already been published, for the same reason.
Same goes for Biden using the info as leverage.

If it didn't happen under either party, there's likely nothing there to use.
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