Research Transgenderism is in rapid decline among young Americans (survey)

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'You can be anything you want to be'..... one of the biggest myths there is. People have to realize there are natural limitations involved. Physical, intellectual and psychological to name a few. A person with one leg shouldn't count on becoming a champion ass kicker for instance.

'How many roads must a woman walk down before they call her a man?(Or vice versa). Apologies to Bob Dylan but the answer will always be blowing in the wind. It's about futility, a strive towards the unattainable. How many trans have overcome all their natural limitations and successfully changed their sex 100%? None

The ultimate goal of the left is radical socioeconomic equality for everyone. The end of all forms of oppression, class distinctions, and injustice directed at specific population groups. But as postgenderism recognizes, that requires making everyone the same. Both biological sex differences and "gender" as an adoptable identity construct impede that utopian agenda. This in addition to many trans-women perpetuating the female stereotypes associated with the subjugation of women (both in terms of appearance and behavior).

Postgenderism: Postgenderism is not concerned solely with the physical sex or its assumed traits, but on the idea of eliminating or moving beyond gendered identities. In traditional gender constructs, one is either a man or woman, but in postgenderism one is neither a man nor woman nor any other assumed gender role...

Shulamith Firestone: The end goal of feminist revolution must be, unlike that of the first feminist movement, not just the elimination of male privilege but of the sex distinction itself [...] Women are an oppressed class. Our oppression is total, affecting every facet of our lives. We are exploited as sex objects, breeders, domestic servants, and cheap labor. We are considered inferior beings, whose only purpose is to enhance men's lives. Our humanity is denied. Our prescribed behavior is enforced by the threat of physical violence. [...] All men have oppressed women.

Transgender views: The transgender movement perpetuates patriarchal gender norms and is incompatible with radical feminist ideology. [...] Sheila Jeffreys argued in 1997 that "the vast majority of transsexuals still subscribe to the traditional stereotype of women" and that by transitioning they are "constructing a conservative fantasy of what women should be ... an essence of womanhood which is deeply insulting and restrictive."

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[...] Many trans people are non-binary.

Those who want to transition to no gender or sex classification at all are more in harmony with final goals. By eradicating human differences or population groups based on sex, race, class, etc -- that will end the rivalries which produce inequality and dominating, oppressive hegemonies.

Of course, that future civilization would still find something else to base distinctions and discrimination on. But postgenderism and the overall rehabilitation of humankind movement is apparently satisfied with the prospect of discarding the traditional causes of such. Having accomplished the task of the latter, it would demonstrate that new menaces to social justice are amenable to being conquered, too.

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Those who want to transition to no gender or sex classification at all are more in harmony with final goals. By eradicating human differences or population groups based on sex, race, class, etc -- that will end the rivalries which produce inequality and dominating, oppressive hegemonies.

I find the idea of the androgynous as a third gender somewhat attractive. Certain celebrities/characters capture that sense such as David Bowie and Tilda Swinton and Dr. Frankenfurter in Rocky Horror Picture Show. There is a beauty and mystique in the androgyne not rooted in the male-female dichotomy. A sort of artistic blending of the masculine and the feminine into a new kind of aesthetic instead of the crude superimposition of maleness or femaleness over each other. I forsee a day when maleness and femaleness will fade away giving way to a more fluid and continuous spectrum of gender qualities. Interestingly in his sci-fi trilogy C. S. Lewis posited that each of the planets were ruled by Eldils that represented other genders beside male and female. Mercury, Venus, Mars, etc. I like the creativity of that, that humans may embody modes of erotic or even spiritual beauty formerly inconceivable to us.

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I find the idea of the androgynous as a third gender somewhat attractive. Certain celebrities/characters capture that sense such as David Bowie and Tilda Swinton and Dr. Frankenfurter in Rocky Horror Picture Show. There is a beauty and mystique in the androgyne not rooted in the male-female dichotomy. A sort of artistic blending of the masculine and the feminine into a new kind of aesthetic instead of the crude superimposition of maleness or femaleness over each other. [...]

I can't stand the singer trend of teeny little girl vocals, that I guess stems from the influence of Japanese music and anime. So that's an area where I'd like to see a return of some androgenous overlap. (Classic historical examples would be the robustness of Patsy Cline's singing, Grace Slick, or even Brenda Lee's almost "adolescent boy" voice in "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree".)

Maybe it was due to growing up listening to parental preferences for country music and blues playing in the background (that occasionally irritated me back then), but my standard for "female vocals" became one that was lower in pitch or huskier overtones -- or just more mature sounding than "peachy princess" type stuff.

[Magical Realist]

Never thought about it but that may be what attracts me to Lana Del Rey's songs. She has that sort of relaxed womanly voice, not the strained brattiness of other pop singers..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_1aF54DO60