Hegseth impresses noone with his new warrior ethos..

[Magical Realist]

Telling it like it is:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1912192542969047

[Syne]

The Army Warrior Ethos states, "I will always place the mission first, I will never accept defeat, I will never quit, and I will never leave a fallen comrade."

That's not what he described. He promoted violence and ruthless crushing of the enemy. The sheer sadistic delight of making war.

“We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy,” he said. “We also don’t fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt and kill the enemies of our country. No more politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement.”

That's literally entailed in "the mission first." The mission is to end threats, not to placate pansies on the left.

Hence the idiotic name change to Secretary of War. As if war was the purpose of the military. The whole speech was disgusting and humiliating to the military brass he had flown in from all over the world at a cost of millions.

It's call peace through strength. Putin didn't invade Ukraine, nor Hamas attack Israel, under Trump's watch.
"Defense" is being on your back foot, where enemies can sense weakness, while "war" is being proactive.

"Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth summoned more than 800 military leaders from all over the world to a base in Quantico, Virginia, on Tuesday morning — only to dress them down. Pacing back and forth against the backdrop of a giant American flag in the highly unusual (and televised) convening of military brass, Hegseth declared it “completely unacceptable to see fat generals and admirals” in the military. Even though Hegseth’s main qualification for Trump’s Cabinet seems to have been his time working for Fox News, he told the military leaders assembled before him that many of them hadn’t earned their promotions, but were only advanced because of their race or sex. "We've promoted too many uniformed leaders for the wrong reasons: based on their race, based on gender quotas, based on historic so-called 'firsts,'" he said.

Lying MSDNC. Hegseth served as an infantry officer in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It would be wrong for any defense secretary to try to publicly humiliate the leaders of the military the way Hegseth did Tuesday, ...

If any "military leaders" were humiliated, they don't belong leading the military.

[Magical Realist]

That's literally entailed in "the mission first." The mission is to end threats, not to placate pansies on the left.

No it isn't. There's nothing in the mission of the military about inflicting punishing violence on and intimidating and demoralizing enemies or even making war. It's all about defense and deterring war. That's why the name of the dept was changed from Dept of War to Dept of Defense in 1946.


"BY VIRTUE of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, and as President of the United States and Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, I hereby prescribe the following assignment of primary functions and responsibilities to the three armed services.

Section I--The Common Missions of the Armed Forces of the United States are:

1. To support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic.

2. To maintain, by timely and effective military action, the security of the United States, its possessions and areas vital to its interest.

3. To uphold and advance the national policies and interests of the United States.

4. To safeguard the internal security of the United States as directed by higher authority.

5. To conduct integrated operations on the land, on the sea, and in the air necessary for these purposes."

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/document...med-forces

[Syne]

Quoting a Democrat president doesn't help your argument.
There is no deterring war without a demonstration of strength.

[Magical Realist]

Quoting a Democrat president doesn't help your argument.

Quoting a voted-in American president regardless of party does...

There is no deterring war without a demonstration of strength.

Which is merely the demonstration of military presence, like the Navy ships I sailed with in the Gulf. It never involved blowing things up or inflicting "punishing violence". Ever..

Here's an eloquent little summary of Hegseth's Quantico meeting..

"Donald Trump walked into Quantico Tuesday expecting a rally. He got a funeral.

The generals sat in perfect silence, faces locked in the kind of grim stillness that comes from years of watching idiots talk and choosing not to react. Trump, of course, couldn’t handle it. “I’ve never walked into a room so silent before,” he confessed, his voice trembling somewhere between wounded pride and panic.

Then came the kicker, “If you want to applaud, you applaud.”

This wasn’t leadership. This was a washed-up Vegas act begging the crowd to clap. The Commander-in-Chief turned into the Clapper-in-Chief, reduced to prodding the nation’s top brass like a sad carnival barker who forgot his punchline.

A campaign rally in uniform.

Instead of strategy, Trump delivered his usual medley of grievances: Barack Obama ruined everything, Joe Biden ruined it twice as hard, and only Donald J. Trump, self-proclaimed “two-term, maybe three-term president” could save America. It was less a military briefing than an episode of The Apprentice: Pentagon Edition.

The generals, trained to withstand battlefield chaos, sat stone-faced through the barrage of nonsense. They have endured artillery fire with more enthusiasm.

Enter Pete Hegseth, America’s Pastor-in-Arms. Trump’s “Secretary of War” took the podium with the intensity of a man who thinks Tom Clancy novels are actual military doctrine. He promised “fire and brimstone,” called for purges of “fat generals,” and announced he wants the next war to look exactly like the Gulf War, because apparently it’s still 1991 and CNN is running that same grainy footage of tanks in the desert.

But Hegseth wasn’t done. He led them in prayer. Yes, prayer. The nation’s top generals, summoned by presidential ego, now folded into a forced altar call like extras at a megachurch revival. The separation of church and state? Obliterated. Constitution? Shredded. Jesus, apparently, is now Commander-in-Chief. Trump can play Vice.

Weakness on parade.

Trump likes to brag about firing generals who “aren’t warriors.” But on Tuesday, the real firing squad was silence. Not one clap. Not one cheer. Just the steady hum of contempt vibrating off the brass like feedback from a dead microphone.

These men and women have seen actual combat. They’ve buried soldiers. They’ve lived with the weight of real command. And now they’re expected to cheer for a man who brags about moving “a submarine or two” like it’s a toy in a bathtub, or who lectures about “two N-words” as though nuclear strategy were a stand-up routine.

No wonder they didn’t clap.

The pin-drop presidency.

What happened at Quantico wasn’t just awkward. It was diagnostic. Trump’s presidency is a hollow shell propped up by applause, and when the applause disappears, so does he.

And Hegseth? He’s the zealot-in-chief, delivering sermons about war and Christ in equal measure, a man confusing the Book of Revelation with the Pentagon’s operations manual. Together, they make quite the duo: one desperate for claps, the other desperate for amens.

The generals gave them neither. Instead, they gave silence, the most cutting judgment of all."

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^^ I can't say if that is a fair summary (not an American and didn't watch) but it is exactly what I would expect from someone moving from a starring role in The Apprentice to real world politics without understanding that things aren't quite the same.

[Syne]

Quoting a Democrat president doesn't help your argument.

Quoting a voted-in American president regardless of party does...

If you really believed that then the Executive Orders of Trump would also hold such weight.
We all know you don't think so, making this a nonsense claim from you.

There is no deterring war without a demonstration of strength.

Which is merely the demonstration of military presence, like the Navy ships I sailed with in the Gulf. It never involved blowing things up or inflicting "punishing violence". Ever..

Here's an eloquent little summary of Hegseth's Quantico meeting..

Canadian leftists mean even less than Democrat presidents. 9_9
Military presence without any indication that it will act means nothing. Since the Navy is usually more about launching aircraft and missile attacks, where the boat-side seamen don't ever see direct combat, I wouldn't expect you to understand.

In response to Russia's buildup of forces on the border with Ukraine, the Biden administration deployed thousands of U.S. troops to NATO member states in Eastern Europe, including Poland and Romania, to reassure allies.
- Google AI

That didn't deter Putin, as he knew Biden wouldn't take any aggressive action.

[Magical Realist]

If you really believed that then the Executive Orders of Trump would also hold such weight.
We all know you don't think so, making this a nonsense claim from you.

Was there anything partisan about Truman's Executive Order that even threatened it with being challenged? Nope. That's why it's still intact. Non partisan executive orders! What a concept!

Military presence without any indication that it will act means nothing.

LOL How in any way does an aircraft carrier off your coast NOT show any indication of acting? Do you think they are just out there on a vacation cruise? You're an idiot. You have no clue about how the military operates.

where the boat-side seamen don't ever see direct combat,

Irrelevant. The sailors are the ones who sail and maintain the ships and subs and their missiles and the aircraft and the radar which as well carry all the marines into battle. So they are as crucial as everyone else is. The military is one vast interlocking system, each part serving the other.

That didn't deter Putin, as he knew Biden wouldn't take any aggressive action.

You're actually moronically trying to claim that a show of force does NOT deter military action? You should probably alert the military then cuz they've been doin it for decades now:

"A Navy show of force is a demonstration of a nation's military power and resolve, intended to intimidate potential adversaries, reassure allies, or signal a willingness to act without necessarily engaging in full-scale conflict. Methods include naval exercises, formations of multiple ships, naval aviation flyovers, and deploying warships to strategic regions to counter threats. Examples include the USS Ford participating in NATO exercises in the North Sea and Venezuelan jets flying over a U.S. Navy destroyer in a show of force in the Caribbean.

Purpose of a Navy Show of Force

Intimidation:
To deter opponents by showcasing military strength and a readiness to use it.

Deterrence:
To prevent a conflict from escalating or to stop an adversary from carrying out a specific action.

Reassurance:
To signal support and commitment to allies by demonstrating presence and capability in a region.

Signaling Intent:
To communicate a nation's position and will to defend its interests or respond to provocations.

Examples of Navy Shows of Force

Naval Exercises and Formations:
International exercises like RIMPAC (Rim of the Pacific) involve massive formations of ships from multiple nations, demonstrating cooperation and power projection.

Naval Deployments:
Sending an aircraft carrier strike group or a destroyer to a particular region, such as the Caribbean or the North Sea, serves as a visible deterrent and a signal of presence.

Naval Aviation Displays:
Using aircraft, such as fighter jets performing low-level passes or flyovers of naval vessels, can create a powerful visual and auditory demonstration of capability.

"Elephant Walks":
In a more dramatic display, multiple aircraft and defense missiles line up on a runway for a coordinated taxi and takeoff, as seen in the Indo-Pacific to show readiness.

Blue Angels Performances:
The Blue Angels, the Navy's flight demonstration squadron, showcase precision, skill, and the professionalism of the service to civilian audiences, inspiring public support and highlighting naval capabilities."

[Syne]

Simple recent history proves that presence alone is not a deterrent. Presence of forces does not indicate a willingness to use those forces in combat. Most foreign adversaries know that Democrats won't use such a large presence of forces, and only prefer to use small strikes (usually against far inferior forces), at best.
But thanks for verifying your non-combat role in the Navy. It aligns quite well with your take on this.

[Magical Realist]

Simple recent history proves that presence alone is not a deterrent.

You're simply too ignorant on this subject to even speak. I just showed you irrefutably how the Navy uses show of force all the time to deter conflict and reassure allies. And who the fuck are you to judge my military service? You didn't even serve. You're just being the piece of shit you usually are because you have no more points to make. Nothing you say here is making any sense anymore. Move along little man..