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Hegseth impresses noone with his new warrior ethos.. - Magical Realist - Oct 1, 2025
This douche couldn't "warrior" his way out of a wet paper bag..lol
https://www.facebook.com/reel/24444373771914479
RE: Hegseth impresses noone with his new warrior ethos.. - Syne - Oct 1, 2025
Said by someone completely out of touch with any front line soldiers. Hegseth served in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
RE: Hegseth impresses noone with his new warrior ethos.. - Magical Realist - Oct 1, 2025
(Oct 1, 2025 06:45 AM)Syne Wrote: Said by someone completely out of touch with any front line soldiers. Hegseth served in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
But then I'm not the one pompously bragging about some warrior ethos...lol
RE: Hegseth impresses noone with his new warrior ethos.. - Syne - Oct 1, 2025
You think that's "bragging'? @_@
RE: Hegseth impresses noone with his new warrior ethos.. - Magical Realist - Oct 1, 2025
If anybody is in the service because they wanna kill people and destroy things they need a psych eval.
RE: Hegseth impresses noone with his new warrior ethos.. - Syne - Oct 1, 2025
You think that's what he said? @_@
RE: Hegseth impresses noone with his new warrior ethos.. - Magical Realist - Oct 1, 2025
Do you even know what a warrior ethos is?
RE: Hegseth impresses noone with his new warrior ethos.. - Syne - Oct 1, 2025
(Oct 1, 2025 06:22 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Do you even know what a warrior ethos is?
The Army Warrior Ethos states, "I will always place the mission first, I will never accept defeat, I will never quit, and I will never leave a fallen comrade."
- https://www.army.mil/article/50082/warrior_ethos
So maybe you're confused.
RE: Hegseth impresses noone with his new warrior ethos.. - Magical Realist - Oct 1, 2025
Quote:The Army Warrior Ethos states, "I will always place the mission first, I will never accept defeat, I will never quit, and I will never leave a fallen comrade."
That's not what he described. He promoted violence and ruthless crushing of the enemy. The sheer sadistic delight of making war.
“We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy,” he said. “We also don’t fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt and kill the enemies of our country. No more politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement.”
Hence the idiotic name change to Secretary of War. As if war was the purpose of the military. The whole speech was disgusting and humiliating to the military brass he had flown in from all over the world at a cost of millions.
"Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth summoned more than 800 military leaders from all over the world to a base in Quantico, Virginia, on Tuesday morning — only to dress them down. Pacing back and forth against the backdrop of a giant American flag in the highly unusual (and televised) convening of military brass, Hegseth declared it “completely unacceptable to see fat generals and admirals” in the military. Even though Hegseth’s main qualification for Trump’s Cabinet seems to have been his time working for Fox News, he told the military leaders assembled before him that many of them hadn’t earned their promotions, but were only advanced because of their race or sex. "We've promoted too many uniformed leaders for the wrong reasons: based on their race, based on gender quotas, based on historic so-called 'firsts,'" he said.
It would be wrong for any defense secretary to try to publicly humiliate the leaders of the military the way Hegseth did Tuesday, but it’s all the more outrageous that he did so given the lightness of his resume and the multiple personal scandals that nearly derailed his nomination (and would have quashed it a normal political era). But Hegseth’s speech was also outrageous as an ideological statement. If nothing else was clear, it was that Hegseth wants to politicize the military and turn it into a swashbuckling corps of bloodthirsty MAGA warriors — and at a time when the president is trying to turn the troops against American citizens.
Hegseth’s remarks served as a manifesto for his vision for transforming the Defense Department into the “Department of War.” He summarized it fairly well in this line, essentially commanding the military to view themselves as brutes who should embrace the Trump administration’s reactionary backlash to multiculturalism: “You kill people and break things for a living. You are not politically correct, and don’t necessarily belong always in polite society.”
Hegseth hammered home that President Donald Trump’s aversion to nation-building and prolonged interventions should not be confused with an aversion to severe use of force. “The only people who actually deserve peace are those who are willing to wage war to defend it,” Hegseth said, seemingly suggesting that freedom from war should not be considered a human right.
He said that the U.S. military’s rules of engagement had been too constraining. “We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy,” he said. “We also don’t fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt and kill the enemies of our country. No more politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement.” Those comments certainly seem to align with the Trump administration’s foray into unprecedented lethal strikes on boats in the Caribbean that it claims are carrying drugs.
Another plank of the speech was that “woke” ideas had diluted the country’s military readiness. “No more identity months, DEI offices, dudes in dresses,” he said. “No more climate change worship, no more division, distraction or gender delusions.” He insisted that the Defense Department had been led astray by inclusivity measures, and delivered odd, cringe-inducing slogans to hammer home the point. “We need you locked in on the M, not the D, the E or the I— not the DEI. Not the D-I-E of dying. By that, I mean the M, military.”
Hegseth’s speech was an attempt to politicize the military in a manner unprecedented in the modern era — even as he repeatedly framed his actions as de-politicizing the armed forces. He defended his firing of military leaders and openly spoke about ideological litmus tests: “My job has been to determine which leaders simply did what they must to answer the prerogatives of civilian leadership, and which leaders are truly invested in the ‘woke department’ and therefore incapable of embracing the War Department and executing new lawful orders.” Hegseth didn’t explain how he determines this, but Trump went on stage later and pledged that he would fire any generals he disliked “on the spot” — and that the military was also meant to be used against “the enemy within."
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/pete-hegseth-speech-military-generals-meeting-fat-rcna234712
RE: Hegseth impresses noone with his new warrior ethos.. - Yazata - Oct 1, 2025
I think that Secretary Hegseth's vision is that that ideally the US military gets into as few foreign wars as possible. But when war is necessary and unavoidable, then the US military must be positioned to win.
I don't see how anyone could argue with that.
It means that our military must be as fierce and lethal as any possible opponent. It means that our soldiers must be ready to face tough, brave, well-equipped and well-trained foreigners trying as hard as they can to kill you.
To that end it's important to emphasize discipline, training and physical standards, especially in the combat forces, including the officers that presume to lead them.
The whole purpose of the US military is to fight and win wars. Not to advance domestic social change agendas. It's time that they kept their eyes on the ball.