The Trump/Musk break-up is getting nasty..

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Magical Realist Online
It was inevitable: two megalomaniacal alpha males with delusions of grandeur facing off like rival snorting ruminants.

"President Trump on Thursday threatened to cut the billions of dollars in federal contracts and tax subsidies for Elon Musk’s companies, escalating a feud that unfurled on social media in remarkably public and rapid fashion.

Their unlikely alliance dissolved into open acrimony, with the two men hurling personal attacks at each other over matters both significant and petty.

What started as simply a fight over Mr. Trump’s domestic policy bill sharply escalated into who deserved more credit for Mr. Trump’s election victory and why Mr. Musk did not cover up a black eye with makeup and whether the government should cut its contracts with Mr. Musk’s companies and provide it with subsidies.

“The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts,” Mr. Trump wrote on Truth Social. “I was always surprised that Biden didn’t do it!”

While meeting with Friedrich Merz, Germany’s new chancellor, in the Oval Office, Mr. Trump broke days of uncharacteristic silence and unloaded on Mr. Musk, who until last week was a top presidential adviser.

“I’m very disappointed in Elon,” Mr. Trump said. “I’ve helped Elon a lot.”

As the president criticized Mr. Musk, the billionaire responded in real time on X, the social media platform he owns.

“Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the House and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate,” Mr. Musk wrote. “Such ingratitude,” he added, taking credit for Mr. Trump’s election in a way that he never has before.

By Thursday afternoon, Mr. Musk was floating leaving the Republican Party to form a new entity. Mr. Trump, for his part, was accusing him of “Trump derangement syndrome.”

Here’s what else to know:

A shattered alliance: The public break comes after a remarkable partnership between the two men. Mr. Musk deployed over $250 million to back Mr. Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign. After Mr. Trump won, he gave Mr. Musk free rein to slash the federal work force. Just last week, Mr. Trump gave Mr. Musk a personal send-off in the Oval Office, praising him as “one of the greatest business leaders and innovators the world has ever produced,” while Mr. Musk promised to remain a “friend and adviser to the president.”

Musk’s leverage: Elon Musk created a poll on X that asked his followers if there should be a “new political party” that represents “the 80 percent in the middle.” He has often portrayed himself as a centrist, despite his engagement with right-wing leaders around the world. Although he promised $100 million to groups controlled by the Trump political operation, he has not delivered it, and could funnel his considerable wealth into this idea as his next political project.

Online chaos: Now unshackled from loyalty to the Trump party line, Mr. Musk has returned to fomenting chaos on X. Mr. Musk panned the president’s signature domestic policy bill as a “disgusting abomination” and telling House members who voted for it: “You know you did wrong.” Mr. Musk has often criticized legislation, agencies and others that are against the interests of himself and his companies, which include the electric carmaker Tesla and the rocket company SpaceX.

Musk appeared to have unfollowed two prominent right-wing figures on X, according to an account that tracks the behavior of high-profile tech executives. One of those figures is Stephen Miller, the White House deputy chief of staff, and Charlie Kirk, the popular podcaster and conservative influencer.

The timing of Musk’s unfollowing, which could not be independently verified, appeared to have occurred as Miller was on Kirk’s live show to praise the president’s “Big Beautiful Bill” — a major point of contention between Musk and Trump. Musk spent much of the morning on X reframing Trump’s legislation as the “big ugly spending bill.”

The person who let Elon Musk have fairly free run at the government despite Musk’s existing federal contracts was President Trump. But Trump is now using those contracts as a weapon against Musk.

Musk appears to be frustrated at Trump’s withdrawal of Jared Isaacman as the next NASA administrator. On Thursday, Trump said in a news conference that he had revoked the nomination because Isaacman was “a Democrat.” In response, Musk reshared a Trump post on X from December in which the president had praised Isaacman as “ideally suited to lead NASA into a bold new Era...”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/05/...-elon-musk
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Syne Offline
When Elon is finding common cause with Jack Dorsey, and doesn't seem to understand the necessities of the reconciliation process (even though he should be smart enough to know), you have to wonder what personal/business motives he has. The budget reconciliation plans to cut EV tax credits and Trump has withdrawn the nomination of Elon's pick to lead NASA.

Aside from those personal motives, the reconciliation bill (that only requires a majority vote) looks to continue the Trump tax cuts and save 1.6 trillion over 10 years. Compare that to DOGE saving 180 billion, that can only be made permanent through regular legislation (requiring a 60% vote). So any talk of national debt seems disingenuous.
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When first reported by the BBC this appeared to be a disagreement over Trump's plan to increase the national debt .. to pay for tax cuts. All mention of that has vanished so .. ???

The Guardian reports (the start?)..
Quote:Donald Trump’s signature tax bill would blow a $2.4tn hole to America’s national debt over the next decade, according to a congressional budget office analysis, which came as Elon Musk called for a new bill.

The non-partisan budget office said on Wednesday that Trump’s “one big, beautiful bill” would decrease federal revenues by $3.67tn while cutting spending by $1.25tn through 2034, as the national debt currently stands at $36tn.

The analysis comes as the legislation faces criticism from within Republican ranks, threatening Trump’s fragile Senate majority. The recent disapproval has been led by Musk, who denounced the measure as a “disgusting abomination” on his X platform on Tuesday.

More: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025...-bill-debt

Now looks like buddies publicly falling out.
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#4
Magical Realist Online
Wouldn't surprise me a bit.

(Gray News) – "Elon Musk’s public feud with President Donald Trump is reaching new levels as Musk claimed Trump is named in the Jeffrey Epstein files.

In a post on X on Thursday afternoon, Musk wrote:

“Time to drop the really big bomb: @realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT!”

This post comes after Musk left his government position and Trump threatened to cut Musk’s contracts.

Trump said Thursday that he was “disappointed” in his former backer and adviser, and Musk responded on social media. Trump then escalated the feud by threatening to use the U.S. government to hurt Musk’s bottom line."

https://www.azfamily.com/2025/06/05/musk...BlR4CoOPng
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#6
Magical Realist Online
Yeah..I thought about that. Pedophilia seems to be Musk's go to gut punch when it comes to flame wars. Not a very admirable trait..
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Syne Offline
Just like Trump is not ideologically a conservative, Musk has never really been one at all.

Mr. Musk’s drug consumption went well beyond occasional use. He told people he was taking so much ketamine, a powerful anesthetic, that it was affecting his bladder, a known effect of chronic use. He took Ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms. And he traveled with a daily medication box that held about 20 pills, including ones with the markings of the stimulant Adderall, according to a photo of the box and people who have seen it.

It is unclear whether Mr. Musk, 53, was taking drugs when he became a fixture at the White House this year and was handed the power to slash the federal bureaucracy. But he has exhibited erratic behavior...- https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/us/el...trump.html


For anyone who's seen The Accountant, I think Elon is just throwing an "on the spectrum"/OCD fit over not being able to finish his work. He hit the 130 day limit for an unconfirmed "special government employee," and now doesn't have the access to "finish" what he claimed he could accomplish.
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