Is "Trump" a legitimate President?

#1
stryder Offline
A simple question can be asked... Is "Trump" a legitimate President?.

The answer is that he is no more legitimate than Mickey Mouse. The reason for this is that Mr. Trump actually defined himself as a "Brand". As a brand, he is a product being sold and when the voting was done people might of not known to even consider if they were voting Republican, Mr. Trump or "Trump" the brand. Since a Brand is not different than Mickey Mouse having been a Disney Brand and in the history of Voting there is always someone that Votes Mickey Mouse for President (And it's discarded as a spoiled vote) It should mean that a number of votes could well have been discarded for being spoiled as a Brand vote.

Further to that "Trump" as a Brand doesn't have the First Amendment as a Right, so he can shut the **** up!
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#2
Syne Offline
That's moronic.

People vote for politicians, like Biden, who obviously lie while campaigning. In contrast, Trump is doing everything he said he would. So the people are actually getting what they thought they voted for... for a change. Every politician is selling an agenda. Nothing new there. If anything, lying Democrats are portraying more of a "brand." In their case, it's the DEI, intersectional, "we care," etc. brand. People aren't buying it anymore because it's obviously a huge lie. There's no such thing as discarding votes for an actual person, no matter how much your fevered TDS brain may wish it.

And unlike the UK, you can't just remove someone's right to free speech in the US.
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#3
stryder Offline
Your missing the point Syne. It's what is refered to as Brand Confusion. You're sold one thing but end up supposedly buying something else.

There is also the point that there is both "Trump the Man" and "Trump the Brand" having been voted for at the same time, so does that mean Trump had two votes per person being registered if they didn't make any distinction between the two?

As to whether he does this or that, it's immaterial, as he shouldn't be in office to begin with.
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#4
Syne Offline
Yes, Joe Biden caused brand confusion. Trump did not. Everyone knew exactly what they were getting with Trump. When you keep your campaign promises, the man and the agenda are one in the same. I know, it must be confusing for leftists who are so used to all the happy-talk that never materializes into anything that actually helps people lives. You have to believe that the "brand" is the person and that the "brand" failed despite the person's best efforts. You know, instead of the truth... that they conned you. So when the "brand" and the person are one, you start talking nonsense about a "brand" getting votes. That's what the internet calls "cope." God forbid teh Brits ever have the stones to elect someone who actually reflects the will of the people... instead of their parental betters.

But how did Trump hurt you? Why are you so keen on making pronouncements about a country's politics you clearly know nothing about?
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#5
C C Offline
(Feb 22, 2025 06:45 AM)stryder Wrote: [...] The answer is that he is no more legitimate than Mickey Mouse. The reason for this is that Mr. Trump actually defined himself as a "Brand". As a brand, he is a product being sold and when the voting was done people might of not known to even consider if they were voting Republican, Mr. Trump or "Trump" the brand. [...]

There are authors who are "brands" -- who have books still being written long after their deaths (like Tom Clancy, Isaac Asimov, Frank Herbert, Robert Ludlum, Frank Baum, etc). So it will be interesting to see how the DT trademark continues to be mined after this term and after Trump's eventual demise.

I expect it could be in the form of a political party. I can't see the GOP allowing itself to be renamed. So the candidates of a populist Trump Party seem to be the ticket for reproducing and making Trump legacy available in the decades ahead. Vaguely akin to "ghostwriters" of the aforementioned authors, who have perfected imitation of the latter's writing styles.
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#6
confused2 Offline
My book will be called "The President Who Lived" - an unwholesome blend of fact and fiction - like the original.
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