Midair Collision in Washington DC

[Magical Realist]

That led to a lawsuit from those who met the qualifications but were denied jobs because of their race/sex, that is still making its slow way through the courts.

Or so the lawsuit claims:

"The original lawsuit was filed on behalf of Andrew Brigida, who claimed the FAA under the Obama administration dropped a skill-based system for hiring air traffic controllers (ATCs) and replaced it with a "biographical assessment," which was allegedly used to attract more minority applicants.
Brigida, who is white and scored 100 percent on his training exam, said he was discriminated against because of his race when his application was rejected."

It has yet to be proven that the FAA's "biographical assessment" administered to ATC candidates for personality assessment reasons , which isn't anymore as of 2018, was really discriminatory against white candidates. See if this description of it sounds racially discriminatory to you:

https://123atc.com/biographical-assessment

In the meantime:

"DEI and any similar programs do not apply to air traffic control hiring, though -- no one is given preferential treatment for race, sex, ethnicity or sexual orientation, a former FAA official told ABC News.

Applicants must pass a medical exam, an aptitude test and a psychological test that is more stringent than that required of a pilot, said Chris Wilbanks, FAA deputy vice president of safety and technical training.

In 2022, 57,000 people applied for an ATC position, Wilbanks said, and 2,400 qualified to attend the academy. Of that 2,400, only 1,000 made it to the first day of training.

Wilbanks said 72% make it through the academy and roughly 60% of those will finish training.

According to the FAA, the training process lasts about three to four years from the hire date. Applicants must be younger than 31 and must retire by age 55.

Anyone who has taken Ritalin or Adderall in the last three years doesn’t qualify, the former FAA official said.

No determination of fault in the crash has been made, and the National Transportation Safety Board is conducting an investigation."

However, the NTSB declined to say whether DEI initiatives were a factor in the crash when asked by reporters later Thursday."--- https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-ev...=118272015

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"Maxine Lubner, professor and chair of the Vaughn College of Aeronautics and Technology"

If you read her bio, it sounds like the epitome of a diversity hire.

So women employed in high profile jobs are all diversity hires? lol You're a misogynist prick...

[Syne]

So women employed in high profile jobs are all diversity hires? lol You're a misogynist prick...

Go read her bio, dipshit.

[Magical Realist]

Here's her resume. I can't imagine how her bio would be relevant.

"Dr. Maxine Lubner is a Professor and Chair of the Management and, formerly, Aviation, Departments at Vaughn College of Aeronautics and Technology, New York City. Previously, Dr. Lubner was appointed Executive Director of the City University of New York (CUNY) Aviation Institute at York College and a faculty member at New York University’s Graduate School of Social Work.

She has conducted research in the areas of aviation safety, human factors, and aviation education. She holds an FAA Private Pilot Certificate. She obtained an undergraduate B.A. and a graduate B.A. (Hons) in Counseling Psychology from the University of Cape Town, South Africa. She earned her M. Phil. and Ph.D. degrees in Sociomedical Sciences from Columbia University, New York."

So what here says to you "she hasn't earned her way into the positions she's held"? How many degrees do you have? And did you just assume that since she lived in Cape Town at one time that she was black? lol

[Syne]

Very first google hit:

Dr. Maxine Lubner took a circuitous route to the chairmanship of Vaughn College’s aviation and management faculty. Born in Zimbabwe and raised in South Africa, she completed master’s and doctoral work at Columbia University and later became a Federal Aviation Administration-certified pilot.

Dr. Lubner is a recognized authority on aviation psychology and safety. She sees aviation psychology as a “public health issue.”
- https://www.vaughn.edu/faculty-staff/maxine-lubner/

If an immigrant injecting sociology/psychology into aviation doesn't smack of diversity hire to you...meh.

[Magical Realist]

A female immigrant with 4 degrees and a pilot's license doesn't smack of DEI at all. Do you think she was hired just because she was raised in Cape Town? Why? Is there a DEI quota for white female immigrants now?

[Zinjanthropos]

Crash reminded me of this episode of Mayday.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hughes_A...Flight_706

Excerpt:

The crash of Flight 706 prompted the United States Armed Forces to agree to reduce the number of military aircraft operating under visual flight rules in civilian air corridors and to require military aircraft to contact civilian air traffic controllers.

[Syne]

Apparently the functionally illiterate can only read half a sentence at a time:
"If an immigrant injecting sociology/psychology into aviation doesn't smack of diversity hire to you...meh."

[Magical Realist]

"If an immigrant injecting sociology/psychology into aviation doesn't smack of diversity hire to you...meh."

Being hired for your educational and research specialty wouldn't be about diversity. Is there now a quota for sociological/psychological experts? You do know what diversity hires are don't you? Why don't you study up on it while you're bitching about it?

[Syne]

You know what, you're absolutely correct. Lubner is not a diversity hire. She's faculty at a college. She doesn't actually work in the aviation industry. She fits quite easily into the expected demographics of college faculty.

That also means she's not necessarily privy to whether the recent "training and testing to become an air traffic controller are so rigorous, only the best make it through."

[Magical Realist]

That also means she's not necessarily privy to whether the recent "training and testing to become an air traffic controller are so rigorous, only the best make it through."

Really? She's in charge of a college that trains air traffic controllers. How could she NOT know that the training and testing are so rigorous that only the best make it through?