Article The drug-based approach to mental illness has failed. What are alternatives?

[Magical Realist]

"When someone is cured from an illness, it means it’s gone forever. Some illnesses can’t be cured—like diabetes. Once a person gets diabetes, they’ll have it for the rest of their life. But even a lifelong illness like diabetes can be treated. People who take their medications regularly and make some lifestyle changes can live long and healthy lives. These medications and lifestyle changes are treatments for diabetes.

Mental illness is the same way. There’s no cure for mental illness, but there are lots of effective treatments. People with mental illnesses can recover and live long and healthy lives."---
https://screening.mhanational.org/conten...s-curable/

[Syne]

Only type 1 diabetes is incurable. The same goes for mental illness. If there's an underlying genetic cause, like type 1 diabetes, that cannot be cured.
Again, other than a genetic cause or physiological damage, it's only the self-limiting belief that determines it's incurable.

[Magical Realist]

"There's no cure for type 2 diabetes. Losing weight, eating well and exercising can help manage the disease. If diet and exercise aren't enough to control blood sugar, diabetes medications or insulin therapy may be recommended."---
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond...ecommended.

"Depression is a lifelong condition, as there is no cure. However, this does not necessarily mean that it will affect a person every day of their life. With the right treatment plan, remission is possible. The treatment plan may need adjusting throughout a person’s life."---
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/article...depression

[Syne]

Again, you'd be talking about genetic issues or other disease where type 2 cannot be cured.

Again, believing you're doomed to a lifetime of depression is a self-fulfilling prophesy. People also believe nonsense like "once an addict always an addict."

[Magical Realist]

Right..Well I'm gonna go by what medical science actually says after a century of studying mentally ill people instead of by whatever lastest ad hoc BS you are pulling out of your ass. There is simply no cure for mental illness NOR diabetes period.

[Syne]

Yeah, you're absolutely free to believe everything an industry that has a vested interest in you staying ill tells you.

[Magical Realist]

Yeah, you're absolutely free to believe everything an industry that has a vested interest in you staying ill tells you.

Oooo...big medical/pharma conspiracy! I was diagnosed by the US Navy in 1997 and have been treated for 20 years for depression/voices by the Dept of Veteran Affairs for free. Vested interest in what? My baby blue eyes?

[Syne]

They couldn't keep everyone else in therapy or on drugs if the VA knew better, now could they?
As I've said many times, there's no conspiracy necessary for individuals to serve their own self-interests. Mental healthcare is a big industry that a lot of people make a really good living doing.

[Magical Realist]

They couldn't keep everyone else in therapy or on drugs if the VA knew better, now could they?

Knew better about what? So now the VA is a victim of the big deceptive medical conspiracy too?

As I've said many times, there's no conspiracy necessary for individuals to serve their own self-interests.

If there was an industry-wide deception going on in order to make more money, that's a conspiracy. And all of psychiatric medicine would be a part of it. These things don't just happen by accident.

[Syne]

Who said anything about deception? That would imply a conspiracy... that I just said is completely unnecessary to postulate.
People in the industry simply believe in the paradigm of the industry and academia that mans it. It's just like medical doctors who are educated to push drugs over preventative or nature measures. It's just the entrenched beliefs of the industry... that they then foist on you, without awareness or any necessary malice.

But the path to a lifetime kept in hell is paved with good intentions.