Aug 8, 2024 01:53 PM
(This post was last modified: Aug 8, 2024 01:56 PM by C C.)
I'd agree that consciousness and the passage of time are the same (the former is the actual source of the latter). But I'm not sure if that's fully or truly what he's saying. And I feel that cognition (identification & understanding dependent on a memory system) -- has everything to do with both the divisions in time as well as any superficially "conflicting" sense of extending over many of them.
Hermann Weyl: "The objective world simply IS, it does not HAPPEN. Only to the gaze of my consciousness, crawling upward along the life line of my body, does a certain section of this world come to life as a fleeting image in space which continuously changes in time." --Philosophy of Mathematics and Natural Science
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A Question of Time: Why AI Will Never Be Conscious
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/...-conscious
EXCERPTS: Some scientists and philosophers have the opinion that artificial intelligence could one day become conscious. A computer remains the same physical structure from one moment to the next. A living organism, in contrast, is never the same entity from one moment to the next.
[...] A computer is not part of dynamic nature; it is an object created by man. In an earlier blog, I wrote about how living beings are fundamentally dynamic. ... Every moment we consciously feel is extended in time, describable as a continuous flow of events in the experienced moment of our embodied existence.
[...] In my blog about why most neuroscientific theories of consciousness are wrong, which is based on a scientific article I wrote with Lachlan Kent, I expanded on these necessary temporal properties of consciousness.
[...] Time is the nature of all existence, including the sentient self: Time does not pass outside of us; we are time. We are inseparably part of the world with its temporality.
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Time consciousness: the missing link in theories of consciousness
https://academic.oup.com/nc/article/2021...#253272209
Hermann Weyl: "The objective world simply IS, it does not HAPPEN. Only to the gaze of my consciousness, crawling upward along the life line of my body, does a certain section of this world come to life as a fleeting image in space which continuously changes in time." --Philosophy of Mathematics and Natural Science
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A Question of Time: Why AI Will Never Be Conscious
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/...-conscious
EXCERPTS: Some scientists and philosophers have the opinion that artificial intelligence could one day become conscious. A computer remains the same physical structure from one moment to the next. A living organism, in contrast, is never the same entity from one moment to the next.
[...] A computer is not part of dynamic nature; it is an object created by man. In an earlier blog, I wrote about how living beings are fundamentally dynamic. ... Every moment we consciously feel is extended in time, describable as a continuous flow of events in the experienced moment of our embodied existence.
[...] In my blog about why most neuroscientific theories of consciousness are wrong, which is based on a scientific article I wrote with Lachlan Kent, I expanded on these necessary temporal properties of consciousness.
[...] Time is the nature of all existence, including the sentient self: Time does not pass outside of us; we are time. We are inseparably part of the world with its temporality.
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Time consciousness: the missing link in theories of consciousness
https://academic.oup.com/nc/article/2021...#253272209
- Time consciousness should not be: (i) confused with timing of cognitive functions; or (ii) identified with all timescales of temporal integration.
- Time consciousness extends over multiple seconds, not just a few-hundred milliseconds.
- Time consciousness is not discrete or point-like (i.e. it does not “happen” at a particular time) but rather field-like (i.e. it contains multiple points that happen at different times but are nevertheless experienced together).
- Short and discrete “functional moments” that are nonconscious are integrated into longer and continuous “experienced moments” that are conscious.
- This continuous integration results in the phenomenal sense of temporal flow in conscious experience.
- Neuroscientific approaches to consciousness do not apply these established principles of time consciousness consistently and so theories of consciousness and time consciousness are potentially incommensurate.