Is Doctor Who really cratering in terms of ratings?

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So claims the video at bottom.

When Gene Roddenberry introduced the diverse cast of Star Trek back in the 1960s, he was voluntarily going against the grain of the industry. That was legit rebelliousness, that was the kind of ministry on the screen that you could be potentially criticized for and punished for by advertisers and the establishment, instead of being rewarded as a saint.

Today, it's just mundane conformity to the propaganda and demands of the current entertainment industry.

In the long run, I don't know whether there's any significance to the numbers of the new Doctor's opening episodes or not. The guy in the video does compare such to the ratings for the debuts of past Doctors. But if there is truly a persistent landslide drop, it seems a tad unfair for the viewers to finally become enraged at the woke agenda when it's merely a trans-racial Doctor who is still male.

Whittaker's transgender Doctor was the truly radical one, which kind of disparagingly screamed that they had no confidence in introducing a separate Time Lord who was female. The latter had to be placed on the shoulders of an existing male character in order to survive in the ratings.

The Doctor actually acquired a daughter in a 2008 episode. She would have been a perfect EDI or DEI complement to the familiar Time Lord, with any young or older actress (including Whittaker) being able to play her years later due to the regeneration nature of Gallifreyans.

With respect to the general idea of a trans-racial Doctor, that could have (and should have) just as much happened in the 1970s as now. Having that long line of "privileged" white men playing the character and then suddenly there's a woman Doctor followed by a Black Doctor (followed by an Asian Doctor followed by an Arab doctor?) just highlights how much it really is just the showrunners opportunistically wanting to receive their halos from the Church of Woke.

Personally, I stopped watching Doctor Who in the middle of Peter Capaldi's run. Not because I disliked Capaldi's portrayal of DW (he actually reminded me some of Tom Baker), but because the Woke gospel subtext became so thick and stifling you could barely breathe. It was like watching Davey and Goliath on a Sunday morning.

I mean, it's no big deal if a heavy background ambience of either religious or social justice preaching is what you're looking for in the first place. But that's not what a viewer traditionally expected to get when watching fictional programming like DW.

Doctor Who rating crater. Show loses millions of viewers. ... https://youtu.be/ONfNytwE1Ag

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ONfNytwE1Ag
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Perhaps the Doctor will eventually go the way of Batman, turning away from the family viewing "Just before the watershed" to something more dar(le)k and sinister.

Maybe another film that isn't canon, reinventing the role and purposely drops woke down the back of a couch somewhere to be lost amongst lint and loose hairs.
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I don't like how the producers of these shows and movies take an established franchise that already has a large well-established fan-base and a whole mythology built up around it, then decide that by hijacking the franchise they will have all those eyeballs watching into which they can pump their race & "gender" messages. Then when those fans who liked the franchise-as-it-was abandon the new "woke" version, the response is always some mix of a defiant "We don't care" and a snarling "You're all bigots".

We saw it with Star Wars, with the all-female remake of Ghostbusters and with all the franchises that have traded in male protagonists for female Mary Sues. (There seems to be a new law that every movie has to have a female character so bad-ass she can beat five Navy Seal type males in hand to hand combat at once.)

We see it with pretty much everything Disney puts out, and Disney is losing gobs of money because of it, as most of their movies tank at the box office.

But BBC will probably get away with it with Doctor Who, because BBC is funded by TV licenses that every Briton has to pay for in order to legally watch TV. Even if viewers don't want it, its producers will still put it out because they and the elite management of BBC want it.
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(May 22, 2024 10:52 PM)stryder Wrote: Perhaps the Doctor will eventually go the way of Batman, turning away from the family viewing "Just before the watershed" to something more dar(le)k and sinister.

Maybe another film that isn't canon, reinventing the role and purposely drops woke down the back of a couch somewhere to be lost amongst lint and loose hairs.

Since the first Doctor Who (William Hartnell) lived hundreds of years before having to regenerate, there would be a wealth of untold adventures there as a prequel to the 1963 debut of the show. Via that route, they could also reboot the franchise to a higher grade of pseudoscience, better consistency, and realism. (Although the problem with the latter is that camp and self-parody seems to be integral to the public's perception of DW.)
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(May 23, 2024 06:32 AM)Yazata Wrote: I don't like how the producers of these shows and movies take an established franchise that already has a large well-established fan-base and a whole mythology built up around it, then decide that by hijacking the franchise they will have all those eyeballs watching into which they can pump their race & "gender" messages. Then when those fans who liked the franchise-as-it-was abandon the new "woke" version, the response is always some mix of a defiant "We don't care" and a snarling "You're all bigots".

We saw it with Star Wars, with the all-female remake of Ghostbusters and with all the franchises that have traded in male protagonists for female Mary Sues. (There seems to be a new law that every movie has to have a female character so bad-ass she can beat five Navy Seal type males in hand to hand combat at once.)

We see it with pretty much everything Disney puts out, and Disney is losing gobs of money because of it, as most of their movies tank at the box office.

But BBC will probably get away with it with Doctor Who, because BBC is funded by TV licenses that every Briton has to pay for in order to legally watch TV. Even if viewers don't want it, its producers will still put it out because they and the elite management of BBC want it.

Disney is even co-producing this Ncuti Gatwa era of Doctor Who (which is why the show has more money than ever for elaborate FX). All the studio people assert that Disney has not made suggestions or interfered in any aspect of its production. Which, for now, is likely true, since the BBC was already paralleling Disney's politics with respect to its path for the series. (The two are a good fit!)

The BBC is internationally making too much money from royalties to ever allow Disney to buy out the intellectual property rights to Doctor Who. But if the show starts tanking as bad as it did in the late 1980s when it was cancelled the first time around, I can see the BBC allowing Disney to wholly produce and largely finance it, as an alternative to giving DW the deep six a second time around. (Disney indeed doesn't care about losses -- like a Church, the missionary work and message is all important!)

Since I haven't watched DW in years, I have no idea what Ncuti Gatwa's version of the Doctor is like, or if the scripts are better than the lousy ones that Jodie Whittaker was apparently ravaged by when she played the 13th Doctor.

With a Black gay comedian in the role, I assume the character is bound to be pretty cool in behavior and receiving nothing but praise from critics. Even if otherwise, who would be stupid or callous enough to venture anything negative?

And I hope that he is successful and the show rebounds. It really would not look good for UK viewership if DW got the chop at a time like this. (But again, being able to fall back on Disney may make that unlikely.)

Doctor Who (2024) ... https://youtu.be/xhL5ihOUUcs

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/xhL5ihOUUcs
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One of my pet hates is blokes with a lisp - fine for a girl but not for a bloke. Don't they teach actors (the doctor) to speak properly nowadays? At least for me all the thpethial effectth in the world aren't going to make up for a lead actor with a lithp. Not watched the new DW - it would just annoy me.
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Another impotent doomsayer below. Never fear, the show will still be here two or three years from now, when another new Doctor rolls around. My guess is that the next actor playing the character -- after the Doctor alternates to female regeneration again (and Asian) -- will be of the kathoey community, or what Westerners call "ladyboys".

Maybe the old fans have been driven off, but the remaining two million are probably Gen-Z and Gen-Alpha. Who have not only grown-up under Woke ministry, but wouldn't know what to do without their weekly of dose of secular kumbaya preaching and fellowship.

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VIDEO INTRO: Doctor Who is a ruined franchise that is getting the lowest ratings in Doctor Who history, but Ncuti Gatwa is making things even WORSE! Ncuti Gatwa was largely absent in the Ruby Sunday-centric episode "73 Yards", but when he returned in this week's episode "Dot and Bubble", he actually drove half-a-million fans AWAY! What does this mean for the franchise? Join us as we analyze the failing numbers, and remind the BBC: Without Respect We Reject!

https://youtu.be/HKr9PQstVBg

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/HKr9PQstVBg
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