Mitigated nod to pro-Hamas support in the protests? (virtue fashions)

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C C Offline
Cynic's Corner: A rare instance of a mainstream media outlet acknowledging that some protest activity is pro-Hamas and antisemitic. Though agenda still requires them to subsume the majority under the "pro-Palestinian" label, and interpret these situations as "many Jewish students themselves constituting the demonstrations".

To avoid reality being mediated by journalists and selective video footage, there's apparently no substitute for raw audio/visuals and direct personal experience at the crusades -- albeit the latter is limited by being nearby enough to physically access them.

Where is a similarly robust, global outrage on campuses about Uyghur genocide (likewise an Islamic population)? Heh, simple reason. The Han Chinese government isn't going to be mistaken for Jews, who are the favorite nexus for the Left and the far-Right to agree on something.

Note that Wikipedia even recently changed the title to "Persecution of Uyghurs". You don't want anything else under that category concurrently distracting from Israeli implemented genocide. And the excellent opportunity it provides for young and old alike, and political opposites, to have camouflage for engaging in a time-honored tradition. (New antisemitism)

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Pro-Palestinian protests leave American college campuses on edge
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pro-palesti...-to-coast/

EXCERPTS: ...many Jewish students have said they fear for their personal safety after incidents of antisemitism.

Near Columbia University, antisemitic slogans including "go back to Poland" were heard among the protesters' chants. In one video, a demonstrator can be seen holding a sign near Jewish students that reads: "Al-Qassam's next targets."

[,,,] That line has been blurred, however, by the actions of some of the protesters, and Adam Lehman, president and CEO of the world's biggest Jewish student organization, Hillel, said the antisemitic chants directed at students in recent days can evoke painful memories for those whose families escaped persecution in Europe just a couple generations ago.

"The issues that we are trying to address for Jewish students and other students are not about speech, they're about conduct. They are about targeted harassment," he told CBS News.

"Those Jewish students themselves, even though they're young, their family members, those who they're going to sit down with at the Seder table, in some cases, themselves experienced… aspects of the Holocaust," Lehman said. "So, when they see these chants as pro-Hamas chants, or as we saw at Columbia… someone indicating that Jews there would be the next Hamas targets, of course they feel it deeply, and they feel it in a post-traumatic sort of way we're working so hard to eliminate."

Speaking Monday, President Biden said he condemned "the antisemitic protests," but he added: "I also condemn those who don't understand what's going on with the Palestinians." (MORE - details)

RELATED (scivillage): Message from a Gazan to campus protesters: You're hurting the Palestinian cause
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Zinjanthropos Offline
Another Agenda?

Said a student at Columbia U
I really need something to do
My grades are a mess
But I got here with less
And I’m not doing as well as the Jew

I really need someone to blame
So I’m not going take any shame
Can’t tell Mom and Dad
That I’m doing so bad
I feel safe here just by playing the game

I don’t know anything Middle East
And history maybe the least
But protest makes me strong
Even though I am wrong
And pretend that I follow the beast

Pro Hamas without knowing a fact
Intelligence is something I’ve lacked
But if I can ask an AI
If I’m a girl or a guy
Then I don’t care if I’m completely whacked

Hamas knows I’m just a charade
Putting up a clever facade
But if I break a few laws
For their religious cause
My folks will think I’m on a mission from god.

That’s about as good as it gets
I really don’t have any regrets
I either flunk or get tossed
Blame the Jew for my loss
And my parents get all of my debts.
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C C Offline
(May 2, 2024 12:05 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Another Agenda?

Said a student at Columbia U
I really need something to do
My grades are a mess
But I got here with less
And I’m not doing as well as the Jew

I really need someone to blame
So I’m not going take any shame
Can’t tell Mom and Dad
That I’m doing so bad
I feel safe here just by playing the game

I don’t know anything Middle East
And history maybe the least
But protest makes me strong
Even though I am wrong
And pretend that I follow the beast

Pro Hamas without knowing a fact
Intelligence is something I’ve lacked
But if I can ask an AI
If I’m a girl or a guy
Then I don’t care if I’m completely whacked

Hamas knows I’m just a charade
Putting up a clever facade
But if I break a few laws
For their religious cause
My folks will think I’m on a mission from god.

That’s about as good as it gets
I really don’t have any regrets
I either flunk or get tossed
Blame the Jew for my loss
And my parents get all of my debts.


I noticed one video where two interviewed student protestors were unable to answer why Israel was invading Gaza to begin with. They seemed completely clueless about the Hamas attack of October. At least the hippie activists back in the '60s could either recommend or hand somebody a copy of Das Kapital, if asked what it was all about.

https://youtu.be/rK0g_J1hhDc

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/rK0g_J1hhDc
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confused2 Offline
If God kind of double booked the Holy Land .. that would create problems.

From the Quran.. (Google it)
Quote:(5:21) “O my people, enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you and do not turn back [from fighting in Allah ‘s cause] and [thus] become losers.” – These are the words of the Prophet Musa (AS).

Edit.. how wrong can you be?
This Musa seems to be the same as the Israelite Moses .. so maybe not double booked,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_in_Islam
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confused2 Offline
CC Wrote:I noticed one video where two interviewed student protestors were unable to answer why Israel was invading Gaza to begin with. They seemed completely clueless about the Hamas attack of October.

I'm surprised if you are surprised. Putin is seeking to overthrow an evil Nazi regime - True if you live in Russia and (probably) False most other places. We live in a post-truth age.

From Al Jazeera 7th October 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIy6NTulW-o

Quote:.. all right let's take a look at how the last 12 hours have unfolded beginning at 3:30 GMT Hamas started its military operation firing thousands of rockets into Israel an hour and a half later fighters from hamas's armed Wing the Kasam brigades crossed into Southern Israel by land and air with the attack underway Hamas announced the start of what it called operation Al AA flood [.] In the hours since fighting began videos started to emerge of Israeli soldiers being taken captive by Hamas Fighters and just after six GMT footage showed fighting in and around the southern Israeli town of zro one showed Fighters taking over a police station 4 and a half hours after the first barrage of Rocket fire from Gaza Israel declared war launching operation iron swords in response ..

Sample comments ..

Quote:Palestinians have right to defend themselves against Israeli occupation and terrorism.

Quote:The Palestinian people have been bleeding for ages under the oppression of the occupying Israel, the Palestinians are willing to die to protect their homeland, the Muslim countries should stand by the Palestinian people,

Quote:Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.


https://thecradle.co/articles-id/13622
Quote:“Sentries on Israel’s border with Gaza, many of them female soldiers who watch and analyze a constant feed of video and other data gathered near the electronic fence surrounding the enclave, sent a detailed report weeks before the attack to the highest-ranking intelligence officer in the southern command,” the two sources are cited as saying.(?!)


The Israeli response was (literally) a pop festival and a declaration of war.
I'm going to use (?!) to indicate possible propaganda. Personally I believe most of the account reported by/to pro-Israelis - mostly because I'm neither anti-semitic nor anti-Palestinian - they're all just people doing the kind of things that people do.

The absence of a rapid response unit near the border turned a potential border skirmish into .. what it was .. with (for example) Israeli helicopter gunships firing on trucks carrying hostages into Gaza (?!). Mis-information (?!), exaggeration (?!) and staged reconstructions (?!).
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