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Determinism without causation

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Every event is the cause of some other following event. But this causal event is also an effect of another preceding event. So every event is both a cause and effect. In essence these states sort of cancel each other out. So what are we left with? The determinative vector of the chain of events in itself. The accumulative determinism of all the events is therefore relayed thru those events. Much like how the movement of a boxcar of a train is caused by the preceding boxcar. But in fact the whole train is moving. The movement is simply transmitted thru the boxcars. That each one is moved by the previous one is a trivial and unhelpful explanation for each boxcar's movement. That the whole train is moving is a better more accurate description of the actual situation. Likewise, that every event is caused by a preceding event and causes a following event is simply a fictive abstraction from the whole continuous process of determinative happening. Every event is but one link in a whole process. There are no discrete causes or discrete effects.

It may be objected that the determinative process is itself causal. But it wouldn't make much sense to say the train is causing its box cars to move. The boxcars make up the train, so when it moves ofcourse they move. Hence a process doesn't really cause its components to act. It IS the components acting, as one continuous temporal whole.
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Discrimination of individual objects as having causal capacities is a practical and arguably indispensable view in everyday life and work, though. Regardless of whether causation actually has any metaphysical or ultimate validity.

Gottfried Leibniz: Causation
https://iep.utm.edu/leib-cau/

"The Scholastic model of causation involved properties of things (“species”) leaving one substance, and entering another. "


Leibniz dismissed the idea that one substance or entity could affect another, and simply had their changes brutely coordinated or relationally programmed with each other in advance. That preset regulation could as much be conforming to Karl Pearson's statistical probability replacement for causation as much as the rigid "natural laws" abstracted from the patterns of observed and measured changes.

Causal Models on Probability Spaces
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1907.01672.pdf

To Pearson, causation was simply perfect co-occurance: a correlation coefficient of exactlly ±1. Notions of causality beyond probabilistic correlation, Pearson argued, were outside the realm of scientific inquiry.


Leibniz may have inspired Hume's views about causation in later decades. Each of his "monads" may have contained a phenomenal continuum vaguely equivalent to the (centuries later) physically structural block-universe. Which thereby could make pre-Established harmony possible. Along with a kind of proto-hologram perspectivism.
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Leibniz conceived of his monads as "windowless." In other words each sealed off and contained in a solipsistic and pre-programmed bubble of reality. That leaves us in a predestined or occasionalist model of reality. Everything predetermined and no novelty.

My monads otoh are windowed monads, each opened up to the surrounding holographic world they are part of, living their free and intercausal holographic lives, all the while connected from within to the hologram-generating source existing timelessly and spacelessly beyond the holographic world. The Source, for me an unknowable and noumenal plenum inputting the data generating the entire hologram, would be equivalent to the block universe where everything exists eternally now and all at once.

"Yes, if you say that all matter actually works from information, not merely matter in the nervous system or DNA matter working in the cell, but even the electron is forming from empty space being informed as it were by some unknown source of information which may be all over the space. And then we can not have, there is no sharp division between thought, emotion and matter. You see that they flow into each other. Even in ordinary experience you have thought and emotion flow into a movement of matter in the body. Or the movement of matter in the body gives rise to emotion and thought right. Now the only point is that present science has no idea how thought could directly affect an object which is not in contact with the body you see, or directly through some system. But if you say that the entire ground of existence is enfolded in space, that all matter is coming out of that space, including ourselves, our brains, our thoughts … then the information might gradually vades the space so that matter starts to, you could say that matter is always forming according to whatever information it has and therefore the thought process could alter that information content. So I would say that it does look possible though I think very careful experiments have to be done before we say that it actually does take place."---David Bohm
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