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Magical Realist
Apr 13, 2024 05:06 AM
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Quote:"Prove me wrong" is the eternal call of the wild crackpot.
You're the one making the claim that it is a mylar balloon. Either you can support the claim or you can't. Just insisting over and over again that it looks like one is no argument. You can post all the pics of mylar balloons you want but it's not gonna change the fact that there is no resemblance whatsoever. I can run thru in my mind all the angles one might see a mylar balloon from. But it doesn't change it. It remains a uap.
Quote:I've given plenty of arguments and pictures illustrating the likelihood of a balloon
You've made no arguments because you have no arguments to make. Either it looks like a mylar balloon or it doesn't. Clearly it doesn't. And no amount of pissy whining and childish adhoms on your part is gonna change that.
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Syne
Apr 13, 2024 05:52 AM
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And I'm sure you're far too deluded to see the difference between comparing a known object with being completely unable to compare with any known object at all. I can't help it if your too deluded to make very simple comparisons. And it is clearly delusional when you can see "no resemblance whatsoever."
Even just saying "it remains a UAP" is nonsense, as that parses out to "it remains unidentified." That's literally asserting that you have no clue. That's your whole argument. That you're clueless.
And since that's all you have, you're just going round and round trying to evade and distract, as you usually do. So go ahead, repeat the same tired nonsense one more time.
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Apr 13, 2024 06:15 AM
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Quote:Even just saying "it remains a UAP" is nonsense, as that parses out to "it remains unidentified."
Duh...it's an unidentified aerial phenomenon. As defined below:
"UAP is an abbreviation of unidentified aerial phenomenon (or phenomena), a term that refers to things observed in the sky that cannot be identified as aircraft or other known phenomena.
UAP is often used in the same way as the more popular term UFO (which stands for unidentified flying object), including sometimes being pluralized as UAPs when referring to multiple things that have been observed."---
https://www.dictionary.com/e/acronyms/uap/
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Apr 13, 2024 06:35 AM
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Well, at least you agree that you have no argument at all. I say it looks like something familiar, and all you can do is say "uh-uh, it's something no ones knows anything about." And you're so committed to that ignorance that you patently refuse to accept any known comparison at all.
Let's test if you're completely reality-impaired. Here's a longer version of the OP video:
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/q4l78gSXWf0
It clearly shows that the glider (pilot filming other gliders below) is flying the opposite direction from the motion of the "UAP," and the pilot even points the camera at the front of the glider at the end, proving the direction it's traveling.
So let's hear again how:
(Apr 9, 2024 03:48 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: The plane is moving in the same direction as the uap. You can see it in the video.
If you could "see" that in the video, which clearly does not show what you thought you saw, it's very likely that you're "seeing" other things there that are also not true.
That's your brain on delusion.
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Apr 13, 2024 08:47 PM
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Quote:Well, at least you agree that you have no argument at all. I say it looks like something familiar, and all you can do is say "uh-uh, it's something no ones knows anything about."
LOL Nobody knows anything about uaps? Do I need to repost the 5 observable characteristics of uaps?
Quote:It clearly shows that the glider (pilot filming other gliders below) is flying the opposite direction from the motion of the "UAP," and the pilot even points the camera at the front of the glider at the end, proving the direction it's traveling.
Yep..that cinches it. Must be a balloon! lol
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Syne
Apr 13, 2024 10:02 PM
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Even when you're proven wrong about something, you can't even manage to just admit it.
You're so gullible that you will still cling to affirming your existing beliefs, regardless of any and all evidence to the contrary.
From the longer video, we know it's not moving under it's own power. That makes a balloon entirely plausible. It shows zero of your UAP characteristics other than that of a balloon.
It doesn't make any "sudden and instantaneous acceleration."
It's not moving at "hypersonic velocities."
It doesn't display "low observability."
It doesn't show any "trans-medium travel" capabilities.
It DOES show "positive lift" of a helium filled balloon.
Apparently you've learned zero humility since that Chinese lantern "UFO" years ago:
(Dec 2, 2016 10:15 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: On further analysis I guess it could be a lantern. Oh well.. Or high mast highway lights:
(Nov 5, 2018 09:44 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: OK..Good catch! Their not moving should have been a clue.
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Magical Realist
Apr 13, 2024 10:21 PM
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Quote:It shows zero of your UAP characteristics other than that of a balloon
Fortunately we have clear video of the uap to prove that it looks nothing like a balloon. So once again, you have no argument to make.
Quote:From the longer video, we know it's not moving under it's own power.
LOL No we don't. Quit making shit up to cover your ass.
Clearly even the person who took the video believes it to be a uap. Why else would he submit it? Hence again, not a balloon.
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Syne
Apr 13, 2024 11:40 PM
I instantly recognized a mylar balloon. Apparently so did plenty of others in the comments to the pilot's original video: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielvelezwagne...2647312686
So only UAP/UFO nuts think it doesn't look like a star-shaped balloon.
Just because the person who films something can't identify it doesn't make it a UAP. Remember the Chinese lantern and highway lights. Those were posted as supposed UAP/UFOs too. Just because people refuse to see the mundane right in front of their eyes doesn't make it mysterious. You're just shitty at recognizing simple objects.
There is zero evidence the balloon is moving. You tried to pretend that there was by claiming it was moving with the plane. Since that has been totally debunked, you have zero evidence left to make that claim. And any pilot will tell you that your own airspeed seems very slow until suddenly you see something, even stationary, zip past.
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Apr 13, 2024 11:50 PM
In the comments the guy who took the video, Daniel Velaz Wagner, says:
"It was so fast I only had time to catch it as it passed me."
Once again, not a balloon.
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Syne
Apr 13, 2024 11:53 PM
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Most pilots tend to avoid near-collisions with objects. So it's likely the first near-object he's encountered.
Again, every pilot who has will tell you that they don't recognize their own speed until they're in proximity to something else in the sky. You do understand that there's little sense of motion when you're up in the sky, right? That's exactly why you where able to think the plane was moving in the opposite direction. Because there was so little indication of its motion.
Obviously your delusion is strong, regardless of your history of being roundly debunked.
Gliders typically travel between 50-100 MPH. Are you claiming that object passed faster than that?
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