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Jan 12, 2024 10:12 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024...e-universe
EXCERPTS: Astronomers have discovered a ring-shaped cosmic megastructure, the proportions of which challenge existing theories of the universe.
The so-called Big Ring has a diameter of about 1.3bn light years, making it among the largest structures ever observed. At more than 9bn light years from Earth, it is too faint to see directly, but its diameter on the night sky would be equivalent to 15 full moons.
The observations, presented on Thursday at the 243rd meeting of the American Astronomical Society in New Orleans, are significant because the size of the Big Ring appears to defy a fundamental assumption in cosmology called the cosmological principle. This states that above a certain spatial scale, the universe is homogeneous and looks identical in every direction.
“From current cosmological theories we didn’t think structures on this scale were possible,” said Alexia Lopez, a PhD student at the University of Central Lancashire, who led the analysis. “We could expect maybe one exceedingly large structure in all our observable universe.”
[...] “These oddities keep getting swept under the rug, but the more we find, we’re going to have to come face-to-face with the fact that maybe our standard model needs rethinking,” said Lopez. “As a minimum it’s incomplete. As a maximum we need a completely new theorem of cosmology.” ( MORE - missing details)
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stryder
Jan 12, 2024 11:00 PM
(Jan 12, 2024 10:12 PM)C C Wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024...e-universe
EXCERPTS: Astronomers have discovered a ring-shaped cosmic megastructure, the proportions of which challenge existing theories of the universe.
The so-called Big Ring has a diameter of about 1.3bn light years, making it among the largest structures ever observed. At more than 9bn light years from Earth, it is too faint to see directly, but its diameter on the night sky would be equivalent to 15 full moons.
The observations, presented on Thursday at the 243rd meeting of the American Astronomical Society in New Orleans, are significant because the size of the Big Ring appears to defy a fundamental assumption in cosmology called the cosmological principle. This states that above a certain spatial scale, the universe is homogeneous and looks identical in every direction.
“From current cosmological theories we didn’t think structures on this scale were possible,” said Alexia Lopez, a PhD student at the University of Central Lancashire, who led the analysis. “We could expect maybe one exceedingly large structure in all our observable universe.”
[...] “These oddities keep getting swept under the rug, but the more we find, we’re going to have to come face-to-face with the fact that maybe our standard model needs rethinking,” said Lopez. “As a minimum it’s incomplete. As a maximum we need a completely new theorem of cosmology.” (MORE - missing details)
I actually consider rather than one uniform expansion, the event(s) are more like multiple waves, where later waves do not just catch up older waves but actually surpass them (depending on how much energy/matter was existent in the space, as if there is a gravitational volume it would likely distort/slow the wave in that area.)
It would lead to such structures being possible.
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geordief
Jan 13, 2024 01:09 AM
(Jan 12, 2024 11:00 PM)stryder Wrote: (Jan 12, 2024 10:12 PM)C C Wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024...e-universe
EXCERPTS: Astronomers have discovered a ring-shaped cosmic megastructure, the proportions of which challenge existing theories of the universe.
The so-called Big Ring has a diameter of about 1.3bn light years, making it among the largest structures ever observed. At more than 9bn light years from Earth, it is too faint to see directly, but its diameter on the night sky would be equivalent to 15 full moons.
The observations, presented on Thursday at the 243rd meeting of the American Astronomical Society in New Orleans, are significant because the size of the Big Ring appears to defy a fundamental assumption in cosmology called the cosmological principle. This states that above a certain spatial scale, the universe is homogeneous and looks identical in every direction.
“From current cosmological theories we didn’t think structures on this scale were possible,” said Alexia Lopez, a PhD student at the University of Central Lancashire, who led the analysis. “We could expect maybe one exceedingly large structure in all our observable universe.”
[...] “These oddities keep getting swept under the rug, but the more we find, we’re going to have to come face-to-face with the fact that maybe our standard model needs rethinking,” said Lopez. “As a minimum it’s incomplete. As a maximum we need a completely new theorem of cosmology.” (MORE - missing details)
I actually consider rather than one uniform expansion, the event(s) are more like multiple waves, where later waves do not just catch up older waves but actually surpass them (depending on how much energy/matter was existent in the space, as if there is a gravitational volume it would likely distort/slow the wave in that area.)
It would lead to such structures being possible.
That ring could be caused by wave interference in the early universe?
Is that what you are wondering?
One wave overtaking another?
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stryder
Jan 13, 2024 12:26 PM
(Jan 13, 2024 01:09 AM)geordief Wrote: (Jan 12, 2024 11:00 PM)stryder Wrote: (Jan 12, 2024 10:12 PM)C C Wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024...e-universe
EXCERPTS: Astronomers have discovered a ring-shaped cosmic megastructure, the proportions of which challenge existing theories of the universe.
The so-called Big Ring has a diameter of about 1.3bn light years, making it among the largest structures ever observed. At more than 9bn light years from Earth, it is too faint to see directly, but its diameter on the night sky would be equivalent to 15 full moons.
The observations, presented on Thursday at the 243rd meeting of the American Astronomical Society in New Orleans, are significant because the size of the Big Ring appears to defy a fundamental assumption in cosmology called the cosmological principle. This states that above a certain spatial scale, the universe is homogeneous and looks identical in every direction.
“From current cosmological theories we didn’t think structures on this scale were possible,” said Alexia Lopez, a PhD student at the University of Central Lancashire, who led the analysis. “We could expect maybe one exceedingly large structure in all our observable universe.”
[...] “These oddities keep getting swept under the rug, but the more we find, we’re going to have to come face-to-face with the fact that maybe our standard model needs rethinking,” said Lopez. “As a minimum it’s incomplete. As a maximum we need a completely new theorem of cosmology.” (MORE - missing details)
I actually consider rather than one uniform expansion, the event(s) are more like multiple waves, where later waves do not just catch up older waves but actually surpass them (depending on how much energy/matter was existent in the space, as if there is a gravitational volume it would likely distort/slow the wave in that area.)
It would lead to such structures being possible.
That ring could be caused by wave interference in the early universe?
Is that what you are wondering?
One wave overtaking another?
Thats what I would suggest. When there is a build up from such waves in gravitational volume it would cause it's own stabilisation, and thus be prone to structure making. At least thats the thought.
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