Israel-Gaza War (and Iranian Distractions)

Yazata Offline
The Institute for the Study of War, which has very close ties to the Pentagon and the intelligence agencies (ISW's leadership includes a former Army deputy chief of staff and a former CIA director) summarizes the leaked document this way:

https://understandingwar.org/backgrounde...ne-25-2025

"A leaked, low-confidence US intelligence assessment found that the US and Israeli strikes caused “moderate to severe” damage to Iran’s nuclear facilities, but that they did not “collapse” the facility. The destruction of the centrifuges and equipment inside does not necessarily require the collapse of the facility itself. A conclusive battle damage assessment of nuclear facilities will take time, given the buried nature of Iran’s nuclear sites and limited on-site access."

ISW says in more detail:

"Preliminary intelligence assessments suggest the US and Israeli strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities caused serious damage to the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP). The New York Times published a June 25 report on a leaked, low-confidence US intelligence assessment of the recent US strikes on the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant.[1] The New York Times and other Western media outlets cite very little direct information from the report. Unspecified sources, in their characterization of the assessment, said that the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) assessed that the US and Israeli strikes.[2] Unspecified officials added that the findings indicated that US bunker-buster bombs sealed entrances to two unspecified nuclear sites but failed to “collapse their underground buildings.”[3]

The destruction of the centrifuges and equipment inside does not necessarily require the collapse of the facility itself. The Institute of Science and International Security, a nuclear nonproliferation think tank that has long studied the Iranian nuclear program, assessed that it was very likely the strikes destroyed or damaged most of the centrifuges at Fordow on the basis of the impact locations and the effects of the blast waves.[4] It is notable in the context of the leaked US assessments that the Institute did not assess the damage on the basis of whether facilities “collapsed.” This is consistent with claims by other unspecified officials to the New York Times, who said that the Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan nuclear facilities had all suffered “moderate to severe damage.”[5] CTP-ISW has no basis for forming an independent assessment of the damage from US and Israeli strikes at these three nuclear facilities.[6] Early Israeli assessments placed more confidence in the damage to enrichment facilities. The Israel Atomic Energy Commission separately assessed that the US strike on Fordow destroyed the site’s critical infrastructure and "rendered the enrichment facility inoperable."[7] US President Donald Trump told reporters on June 25 that Israeli agents concluded that Fordow suffered ”total obliteration” after visiting the site, suggesting that Israeli assessments have been formed with intelligence collected by Israeli agents in Iran. [8]

A conclusive battle damage assessment of nuclear facilities will take time, given the buried nature of Iran’s nuclear sites and limited on-site access. A US nuclear weapons expert stated on June 24 that US and Israeli strikes likely destroyed 20,000 centrifuges at Natanz and Fordow and severely damaged weaponization infrastructure.[9] The expert stated that the early, low-confidence assessment ”focused too narrowly” on breakout timelines.[10] Breakout refers to the time required to enrich 90 percent enriched uranium (also known as weapons-grade uranium). Weaponization requires one to build nuclear weapons. Axios reported on June 25 that intercepted communications suggested Iranian military officials have delivered false situation reports to senior Iranian leaders to downplay the extent of the damage, citing an unspecified Israeli source.[11] This fact is notable because the leaked US intelligence assessment reportedly relied in part upon signals intelligence.[12]"
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Syne Offline

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi told Al-Araby Al-Jadeed that the attacks will have "serious and profound effects on the course of the nuclear program," adding: "We need to rethink how we protect our nuclear facilities."
- Iran Admits Heavy Nuclear Damage as Israel Backs Trump

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Secular Sanity Offline
Hosseini Infants Ceremony

There’s nothing more glorious than dying as a martyr. The lady in the interview says that we want to show them that we’re not scared of anything and we’ll support our state until they are destroyed. They need to know that Imam Hussein is our everything and we should sacrifice our lives for Inman Hussein. The crowds were chanting "death to America" and "death to Israel".

While the instinct to protect one’s child is natural, the mother may reframe the act of sacrifice to align it with her deeply held religious convictions. The act of martyrdom is glorified in religious teachings, and she may view her child’s death not as a tragic loss, but as a triumph in the spiritual and moral struggle against tyranny. In this way, faith overrides natural survival instincts.

The act of sacrificing a child may seem unnatural in the biological sense, but it becomes comprehensible within a religious and cultural framework that values martyrdom, spiritual rewards, and community identity over immediate personal survival. For these mothers, the act of sacrifice is not an end but a means to something greater—a divine purpose, spiritual fulfillment, and a legacy of standing for justice, truth, and faith.

It’s a stark reminder of how belief systems and cultural narratives can reshape fundamental instincts.

The Danger of "Deferred Living":

One of the key critiques of afterlife-oriented religions is the concept of "deferred living." It’s the idea that we postpone full engagement with life because we’re waiting for something better or more important beyond death.

"Why should I fully experience life now if there’s something better waiting for me after?"
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confused2 Offline
For context .. of race, 'nationhood' and religion.. in the 1970s there were attacks on mainland Britain as a result of actions taken by Henry VII (1457-1509)..
Quote:In 1973, the Provisional IRA [nominally Roman Catholic] extended its campaign to mainland Britain, attacking military and symbolically [in their imagination Protestant] important targets to both increase pressure on the British government, via popular British opinion, to withdraw from Northern Ireland, and to maintain morale amongst their supporters. By 1974, mainland Britain saw an average of one attack—successful or otherwise—every three days.
The 'campaign' included bombing two pubs in Birmingham (UK) where 21 were killed and 200 injured.
You may well know someone who worships at a Roman Catholic Church - the same guys that have kept a grievance alive for 500 years.
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