Quote:vulcanlogician said:Perhaps I am misrepresenting the more "agnostic" group of opened-to-the-possibility of believing-in-reality "atheists", which in this case would simply not mind being called "agnostics".
Ah, man. You had some great thoughts, but you ended with an erroneous assumption.
Question?: Is God some kind of acronym for you? What does G-O-D stand for?
So, I really liked this thought. There really is something paradoxical about reality or the fact that "anything at all" exists.
But I take issue with the claim that God is "believed by atheists to be contained outside of the paradox of reality." I don't think this phrase means exactly "possibly or probably nonexistent" Most atheists think that God is "possibly or probably nonexistent." By implying that they in some way place God outside of reality, you are (possibly) misrepresenting atheism, which would be a strawman.
Quote:vulcanlogician said:The material universe cannot be independent of consciousness or the mind otherwise it would be "unreal". Thus unreality is non-informational and thus non-observational. It is nothing. And it has no relationship or connection to the spacetime manifold in which the universe can be real. The unreal universe is non-relational to the real universe and cannot exist, so it does not exist. There can be no external reality to a conscious observer and observation. Communication is the means of building an objectifiable reality in which our conscious brain can explain.
Care to elaborate? And feel free to correct me at any point where I might have misinterpreted you.
Physical matter exists within the reality of the mind and the communication between individuals. The mind is not an object. It is the reality.
(Sorry about the exceeding genius of that last statement. I was ^ when I wrote in back in the day.)