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"Science is political": Defending its soapbox antics, SciAm fully looses its cred?

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C C Offline
Scientific American goes defensive; tries to pretend that every social justice screed is a “science story”
https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2022/11/1...nce-story/

INTRO (Jerry Coyne): The old saying goes that “all science is political”, a saying that is true only if you stretch the meaning of either “science” or “political”. I’m baffled, for instance, to understand how my work on the genetics of hybrid sterility in Drosophila is political. But don’t worry: the ideologues will find a way to make it so. “You’re doing your work in the milieu of a culture,” they’ll babble, “and decisions about what to fund and publish are explicitly political.” Blah blah blah.

But this trope has just been taken up by the editors of Scientific American, which, as you know, has gone “progressive leftist” (aka “woke”) over the last couple of years. I’ve called them out on this a number of times (see all my posts here)—not only for littering a science magazine with politics that are irrelevant to the magazine’s original mission, but also for doing so in a silly way...

Several people have gone after the magazine for its transformation into an arm of wokeness. Besides me, they include Michael Shermer, who wrote over 200 columns for the magazine, but was given a pink slip because he was deemed ideologically impure (see his video on the issue here).

Now, apparently stung by the criticism, the editors of the magazine have written an editorial explaining their wokeness. The title below tells the tale. Every story, they claim, is a science story, including stories about social justice. (What they should have said is that “every social justice story is a science story.”) Either way, their defensiveness doesn’t address the fact that people read the magazine largely or entirely for the science, and can get social justice rants in a gazillion other places.  And in response to the criticism of both inappropriateness and scientific accuracy, they promulgate still more scientific inaccuracy and then blame the criticism on—yes, you got it—”wealthy white men”... (MORE - details)

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Here's a smidgen from the Stuart Ritchie article that Coyne refers to in his update

Science is political - and that's a bad thing
https://stuartritchie.substack.com/p/sci...-political

People who say “science is political” usually aren’t just stating facts - they’re trying to push something on you. Don’t let them.

EXCERPTS: . . . Indeed, this phrase—“Science and Politics are Inseparable”—was the title of a Nature editorial in 2020, and it’s not hard to find other examples in popular-science publications:

* Science Has Always Been Inseparable From Politics (Scientific American)

* News Flash: Science Has Always Been Political (American Scientist)

* Science Is Political (Chemistry World)

* Yes, Science Is Political (Scientific American)

What does “science is political” mean? Here’s a (non-exhaustive) list of what people might mean when they say “science is political”: [See the article for that list.]

[...] There’s no argument from me about any of those points. These are all absolutely true. I wrote a whole book about how biases, some of them political, can dramatically affect research in all sorts of ways. But these are just factual statements - and I don’t think the people who always tell you that “science is political” are just idly chatting sociology-of-science for the fun of it. They want to make one of two points... (MORE - missing details)

See the article for the elaboration on those two points, along with the rest.

1. The argument from inevitability
2. The activist’s argument
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Kornee Offline
Why is there any surprise? Just another facet of a very extensive program unfolding. How many statues of formerly heroic figures 'representing white supremacism' for instance are yet to be torn down?
Just note which ones are somehow immune. Of Karl Marx for instance. The truth of the latter's real thinking is concealed from the public mind:
https://stoppingsocialism.com/2020/06/ka...sm-quotes/

Possibly one or two quotes are bogus, but enough are verifiable to get the picture. A 'self-hating' Jew. The Patron Saint of ostensibly anti-racist Antifa/BLM types.
Useful idiots for an actual cause that will see them in turn disposed of as so much rubbish in the longer term. Ultimate irony.
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