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More anecdotal UFO reports by pilots

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Kornee Offline
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/pil...skbarhover

The sort of thing that certain so-called open-minded skeptics will again pooh pooh as 'unreliable human perceptions'. 'Why don't they communicate with us' and such naive quips with the deliberate narrow focus on what it could be.
The types who refuse to drop 'little green men' putdowns, no matter how often challenged to do so.
While fence sitters will say 'something interesting may have happened'.

For me, just more of the same supernatural antics that the likes of Vallee and Hynek and McDonald were already well familiar with six decades ago or more.
And were smart enough and well educated enough scientifically to realize it amounts to genuine 'high strangeness' with no pat answers - mundane or ET. Although McDonald probably retained a lifelong preference for the latter.
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#2
Seattle Offline
(Oct 22, 2022 10:20 AM)Kornee Wrote: https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/pil...skbarhover

The sort of thing that certain so-called open-minded skeptics will again pooh pooh as 'unreliable human perceptions'. 'Why don't they communicate with us' and such naive quips with the deliberate narrow focus on what it could be.
The types who refuse to drop 'little green men' putdowns, no matter how often challenged to do so.
While fence sitters will say 'something interesting may have happened'.

For me, just more of the same supernatural antics that the likes of Vallee and Hynek and McDonald were already well familiar with six decades ago or more.
And were smart enough and well educated enough scientifically to realize it amounts to genuine 'high strangeness' with no pat answers - mundane or ET. Although McDonald probably retained a lifelong preference for the latter.

I don't see any indication of the "supernatural" here. There appear to be unidentified objects however.
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#3
Kornee Offline
(Oct 23, 2022 04:57 AM)Seattle Wrote:
(Oct 22, 2022 10:20 AM)Kornee Wrote: https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/pil...skbarhover

The sort of thing that certain so-called open-minded skeptics will again pooh pooh as 'unreliable human perceptions'. 'Why don't they communicate with us' and such naive quips with the deliberate narrow focus on what it could be.
The types who refuse to drop 'little green men' putdowns, no matter how often challenged to do so.
While fence sitters will say 'something interesting may have happened'.

For me, just more of the same supernatural antics that the likes of Vallee and Hynek and McDonald were already well familiar with six decades ago or more.
And were smart enough and well educated enough scientifically to realize it amounts to genuine 'high strangeness' with no pat answers - mundane or ET. Although McDonald probably retained a lifelong preference for the latter.

I don't see any indication of the "supernatural" here. There appear to be unidentified objects however.
I was not trying to say the clutch of recent reports linked to in #1 lead of themselves to conclude a supernatural origin.
Rather that having studied a large enough representative sample of the many credible non-mundane case histories, supernatural is imo the sole explanation that satisfactorily accounts for all the observed and associated phenomena. A perspective that only solidifies after reading very widely.

It's bizarre, but bizarre is what the totality of evidence points to. Many radar clocked hypersonic speeds but never a recorded sonic boom just one important facet. Many recorded accounts of vehicle electrics that totally fail on UFO arrival, self-correcting - including engines starting back up by themselves, on UFO departure, another. ETs can't explain any of that, although some try to offer half-baked 'theories' that are imo always full of holes.
[Another factor is the utterly bizarre UFO visuals often reported - for instance constantly changing multicolored flashing light displays that make zero sense from the 'ETs are silently monitoring us' lore most UFO believers subscribe to. But do fit with antics of mischievous invisible entities.]
There are many other associated factors e.g. concurrent poltergeist type activity, but why bother to list them all again?

Having given many examples both here and back at SF, there is little point dredging up specific cases once more. Folks are stuck in their particular mental rut.
As the cyclic circus at SF, where particularly the Chief Troll and faithful sidekick pretend to be engaged in objective discussion, attests to. Sadly.
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#4
Kornee Offline
In case anyone thinks this article 'refutes' my point regarding lack of sonic boom as a key characteristic of UFOs....
https://techxplore.com/news/2022-10-nasa...-boom.html
Note the extreme aerodynamic refinement of needle shape used - in order to minimize but never actually eliminate the boom.
Even then, the speeds involved are mildly supersonic - not hypersonic!: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_M...-59_QueSST

Contrast that to the 2004 tic tac shaped UFO(s) radar clocked at HYPERSONIC speeds but never a boom recorded.
A tic tac shape is very very far from the kind of aerodynamic refinement of above article. No material object could pull those tic tac feats off.
That they reflected/emitted light and radar simply hints at the exquisite level and diversity of manipulation available to the entities responsible.
And there's a long list of similar such recorded feats going way back.
The premier example of such astounding levels of control over the material world remains imo The Strange Case of Doctor X.
Instantaneous remote action healings are far beyond any imagined visiting interstellar ET capabilities.
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