Reaction to Michio Kaku's recent public perspective about UFOs + ET quantum messages

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Aliens could send quantum messages to Earth, calculations suggest
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/alie...ion-signal

INTRO: An intelligent alien civilization could beam quantum messages to Earth. Particles of light, or photons, could be transmitted over vast, interstellar distances without losing their quantum nature, researchers report June 28 in Physical Review D. That means scientists searching for extraterrestrial signals could also look for quantum messages.

Scientists are currently developing Earth-based quantum communication, a technology that uses quantum particles to send information and has the potential to be more secure than standard, or classical, communication. Intelligent extraterrestrials, if they’re out there, may have also adopted quantum communication, says theoretical physicist Arjun Berera... (MORE - details)

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Dr. Michio Kaku has always been a bit out there. The 75-year-old theoretical physicist [...] has generally been a great ambassador of science to the general public via his appearances in popular media. But now, Kaku is seriously jeopardizing his reputation and misleading the public through his unscientific new stance on UFOs. He articulated it when speaking with podcaster Joe Rogan early last month.

[...] When speaking to Rogan, Kaku offered skeptical lip-service before plowing ahead into hyperbolic hypothesizing. "Either [the aliens are] an optical illusion of some sort, or they have a set of laws of physics beyond what we can muster. Open your mind to the possibility that they are a thousand years more advanced than us. A thousand years is nothing compared to the age of the Universe."  Kaku went on to suggest that these aliens could harness something called the Planck Energy, allowing them to become "masters of space and time".

This is pure, wild speculation. Sadly, with his eminent stature, Kaku lends it a veneer of credibility. Novella offered a skeptical rebuttal on the SGU. "When tricky, biased observations are put up agains the laws of physics, I will bet on the laws of physics every single time."

June 8, 2022 - Physicist Michio Kaku on the Shift in the UFO Phenomenon ... https://youtu.be/YebZyAzLZuc

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/YebZyAzLZuc

[Magical Realist]

Michio Kaku appears in the soon to be released documentary "A Tear in the Sky", which follows a team of scientists and military personel in a quest for the elusive UAP. I sort of admire him for not giving a crap about what his reputation is among other scientists. I guess when you're famous enough and old enough, you can afford to just be yourself in the public's eye.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpZYanaADSI

[RainbowUnicorn]

i like michio
i think he's awesome

[confused2]

The mach 5 to 20 objects. With spooky accuracy Michio Kaku described what a friend of mine said he saw in the late 19950s.The friend gave his description in the 1980s so not influenced by anything seen after that date. So I know (actually knew) a man who saw 'one of those' over 60 years ago.

[Kornee]

That interview already linked to back here:
https://www.scivillage.com/thread-12431-...l#pid51443
Michio's attempt to 'scienceify' the topic with reference to 'Planck scale engineering' is though imo quite silly.
He wells knows such stupendous energy density enacted over anything larger than, well around the Planck length of ~ 1.6 x 10^-35m would result in instantaneous gravitational collapse.
Therefore impossible to use such 'Planck scale engineering'. I guess Michio can't go far-out enough and embrace the possibility of the supernatural.

[Yazata]

When speaking to Rogan, Kaku offered skeptical lip-service before plowing ahead into hyperbolic hypothesizing. "Either [the aliens are] an optical illusion of some sort, or they have a set of laws of physics beyond what we can muster. Open your mind to the possibility that they are a thousand years more advanced than us. A thousand years is nothing compared to the age of the Universe."

Compare science today to humanity's understanding of the universe in 1022. Pretty much all of our technology would look like magic to them. I would guess that's what the quote attributed to Arthur Clarke was talking about.

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Kaku went on to suggest that these aliens could harness something called the Planck Energy, allowing them to become "masters of space and time".

It might be a lot more radical than that. As discussed in an earlier thread, perhaps suitably advanced aliens (or future human science) will be able to change the laws of physics at will.

It all depends on whether the regularities that we call "laws of physics" are fundamental in a metaphysical sense. Are they simply givens, the way the universe is, and not explainable by or reducible to anythings else? If there's really some underlying reason why the laws of physics exist and are what they seem to be, perhaps a suitably advanced technology will be able to adjust those underlying reasons so as to produce new laws of physics to suit some super-advanced engineering.

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i like michio
i think he's awesome

I like him too. It takes some courage to say the things he says. Maybe at 75 he just doesn't care all that much how the "skeptics" react.

[Kornee]

Perhaps this or perhaps that. Perhaps. Physical beings no matter how scientifically/technologically advanced, are stuck with the fundamental physics applying to our universe. Period. Speculation from some more way-out theoreticians envisages 'creating new universes in the lab'. Which according to string theory landscape viewpoint, might have any of ~ 10^500 different physical constants applying. Sure. Chime in when done. Not holding breath till then.

'Alcubierre drive' enthusiasts envision 'warp-drive physics' that could 'explain' e.g. reported/recorded tic-tac bizarre behavior.
This boomerangs back to my last post here. A convenient side-stepping of the utterly humongous *negative* energy densities implied. Let alone the inherent instabilities that those folks working in such a rarefied academic environment are quite aware of. But somehow imagine those and other show-stoppers can be overcome with enough effort - and $$$$$ poured in. Sure. Chime in when done.

A fully integrative approach that doesn't shrink from 'unrespectable, unscientific' embracing the many reported instances where distinctly supernatural phenomena accompanied otherwise 'classical' UFO encounters, doesn't require speculation of super science to the rescue type.
There's a greater reality beyond the physical realm. Oh dear - here I an advocating 'woo thinking' again! Shame on me!