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Alien encounters with John Mack

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I must admit my mind is much more open to the alien encounter phenomenon since reading about it and watching videos like this one. These people, including 60 school children in Africa, aren't crazy or laden with some agenda to believe in aliens. But the experiences are absurd and irrational, suggesting more of a medieval experimentation session than a real medical procedure. It bears some resemblance to Robert Monroe's out-of-body-experiences. The beings are ethereal, yet the craft they maneuver are physical. The lines between reality and the paranormal and nightmares become blurred together into one traumatizing experience, often repeated since childhood. Here's an excellent 57 minute documentary that may convince you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3eeG75rsbk


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Robert Monroe's alien encounters:

"Monroe himself was not aware of the connection until many years after the following event when he first read Fuller's book on the Betty and Barney Hill case, The Interrupted Journey. There were three facts presented in the book that astonished him. The first of these was the physical examination that was described as taking place within the saucer vehicle. Secondly, were the beeping noises that the Hills heard, and lastly the blemishes that appeared on the Hill's automobile. Fortunately, Monroe had kept careful records of his experiences and he was able to check his notes for 1958 when this experience occurred.

He was alone one evening, in a little ten-by-ten office, he had built for himself back in the Virginia Blue Ridge mountains. The first strange thing he noticed was a repeating tone about 800 cycles per second.

Then it felt to him as if a beam of heat penetrated the walls of his office and hit his body, from a position about thirty degrees above the horizon. From that point on he was aware of the presence of three or four entities. He was unable to see their forms in detail, although he had a sense he was seeing some forms. He also had the experience of telepathic communication with them lasting for about two and a half hours. Particularly striking for Monroe was the sensation of having a cup-like object placed over his groin precisely as Barney Hill had described!

The examination and communication that followed was rather detailed. Monroe felt the most important sensation was as if his brain were being probed -- as if everything he knew or thought was examined. Of course, he was rather awestruck by the situation and did not make all of the observations which he later thought of. Today, he maintains the examination took place while he was outside of his body, but still in the physical environment of his office. However, being inexperienced at the time, he did not know how to interpret the event. Now he even hypothesizes the incident may have changed his brain in some way that led to his subsequent out-of-body journeying.

Generally speaking Monroe does not associate the out-of-body state with other UFO encounters. He acknowledges the presence of many strange creatures and beings in the out-of-body state, but feels there is no evidence they are related to UFOs. Only on one other out-of-body trip did he experience anything like a UFO:

'This happened in the early days of my out-of-body journeys, from the same office. I rolled out of the physical and thought I would go play for a while. It was a beautiful cumulus cloud day. So I went up and was doing power rolls through clouds and things like that. As I came out and circled round this one large cumulus, there was this disk shaped object sitting between two cloud towers. The cockpit was, I would assume, maybe ten or eleven feet in diameter. There were two snake- like heads coming out of it. They were long heads without any shoulders. They could have been mechanical devices. They appeared to be rotating, like rods with helmets on top. I perceived a peculiar sort of frequency coming out of them. I was within two hundred feet. Then I got nervous and just turned around and went home before I was discovered.'"====http://www.williamjames.com/Folklore/WORLDS.htm
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(Jul 12, 2015 08:49 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [...] Particularly striking for Monroe was the sensation of having a cup-like object placed over his groin precisely as Barney Hill had described! [...]

Doubtless many posthuman infomorphs from the future are genderless, so perhaps that accounts a little bit for their fascination with genitalia. Most of the affairs of an encounter are probably virtual-reality intrusions into the victims' brains, rather than literal external manifestations. But I guess it still supplies a bit of comfort to "visited" humans to know that even the simulated or collective-dream versions of their sacred body regions are protected by "cups" and "chastity belts".

Perhaps "future" isn't even wholly applicable as the origin place of the alien-described "sleep-demons". Their reverse-time travel or "anti-chronicity" process would be just as slow as our travel in the "normal" direction, rather than the instant spatiotemporal teleportation (in sci-fi shows) across thousands of years and vast distances of space to reach where the Earth was located during a specific date back in the past. For all intents and purposes, the various infomorph species would be establishing their own developing "civilization" along the way. In whatever hidden substrate of spacetime they were exploiting to erect and extend the ideomenal network (they subsisted in) across the entire history of the cosmos.

So from our causal perspective it might be proper to assert that in the year _FITB_ a technological singularity or archailect finally got around to penetrating and setting-up shop in an as yet undiscovered addition to physics, and expanded both forwards and backwards through the ages with its intellectual web.

But from the perspective of that clandestine, ideomenal channel: Its information entities (infomorphs) might instead be deemed to have always existed from Big Bang to Big Doom. It's just that in terms of human experience conforming to the concept of causality or a template for cause-effect relationships, it makes more sense for us to view them as having a genesis located in the more advanced future.

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* ideomenal: The "ideo-" word unit combined with the "-menal" word unit of noumenal, phenomenal, etc.
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