MIT scientists claims we are surrounded by disincarnate conscious beings

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Not sure what this so-called "trace logic" is, but I'll post this anyway because it supports, from a very mainstream and even mathematical level, the existence of disincarnate conscious beings. Which jibes with just about everything humans have been experiencing for thousands of years up to the present day such as aliens, interdimensional cryptids, ghosts, collective thought forms, djinn, fairies, poltergeists, nature spirits, gods, and perhaps even angels and demons.

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(Yesterday 09:42 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Not sure what this so-called "trace logic" is, but I'll post this anyway because it supports, from a very mainstream and even mathematical level, the existence of disincarnate conscious beings. Which jibes with just about everything humans have been experiencing for thousands of years up to the present day such as aliens, interdimensional cryptids, ghosts, collective thought forms, djinn, fairies, poltergeists, nature spirits, gods, and perhaps even angels and demons.

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First time I've ever even heard of Henri Lebesgue.
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Science is ready for a theory of the observer
https://traceinstitute.org


Traces of Consciousness
https://www.researchgate.net/publication...sciousness

Abstract: What is an observer? What is an observation? How do observations inform beliefs? What is the relationship between observers and physical objects in spacetime?

These are central, and as yet unresolved, questions in the foundations of physics and consciousness science. We propose an answer taking consciousness as fundamental, resulting in a theory of conscious agents whose mutual interaction is governed by Markov chains. We describe observation via a new trace order on Markov chains.

In this context, no observer is aloof: it must be an integral part of any system it observes. We find that the trace order forms a non-Boolean logic, mapping homomorphically to the “Lebesgue” logic” of probabilistic beliefs.

We explore implications of conscious agent theory for the “hard problem” of consciousness, and propose a route to empirical tests using data from scattering experiments with subatomic particles.
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I just watched a long video of Donald Hoffman explaining trace logic and markov chains and matrices and all sorts of abstract math. And he believes, along with others, that the logic is sound and is even deriving Minowski spacetime from it in addition to time dilation, the Big Bang, dark energy, and other phenomena of cosmology. They are also noticing how it also has potential for explaining quantum theory too, like Schrodinger's wavefunction and the nature of the observer. I could only get thru half of it though. I'm amazed that progress is being made in mathematics of all fields in explaining the fundamental metaphysical dilemmas of the mind-body problem, the nature of reality, and the hard problem. Quite a smart man if you ask me! Still, it is my belief that these philosophical conundrums can only be resolved experientially in how conscious embodied beings live their lives. I'm very skeptical that something as fundamental and phenomenal as consciousness can ever be axiomatized by the highly abstract operations of mathematical logic. The map, iow, will never include the existence of the map user.
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