Trump attacks Pope and posts picture of himself as Jesus all in one day

#61
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:Then along come President Trump and his people who aren't particularly religious and obviously like to have a bit of fun.

You're kidding? Trump's base is composed largely of evangelical Christians and conservative Catholics. It's what drives all this transphobic panic about drag queens lurking in public restrooms waiting to rape women. It's also what drives the single issue "Save The Fetus!" voters and the diehard homophobes that accuse LGBTs of being activists censoring free speech even as they are banning books from school libraries and altering science textbooks to give equal time to creationism. So when Trump attacks the Pope, who hasn't even mentioned Trump's name, and posts trollish pics of himself as Jesus, it's not the liberals who are offended. It's his own base. And this will likely be all reflected come November.

Here's a reporter asking Trump why he attacked the Pope. Trump's response? An outright lie that he said he wanted Iran to have a nuclear weapon. When you make up shit just to justify your lambasting of someone, it's pretty good evidence you had no good reason at all for doing so.

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#62
Syne Offline
(Apr 17, 2026 07:25 PM)Yazata Wrote: It's interesting how atheists are suddenly so up in arms about President Trump jousting with the Pope, posting a light-hearted meme about his larger-than-life role healing America, and about Pete Hegseth's use of an adaptation of a Bible verse from the Combat Search and Rescue community.

The old stereotype of Republicans were that they were all tightly moralistic and judgmental prudes waving Bibles as they condemned all the free and open, liberated, open-minded people. The "Religious Right" was what they called it.

Then along come President Trump and his people who aren't particularly religious and obviously like to have a bit of fun.

And the atheists totally lose it. How dare he deviate from their stereotype!

After a generation of total disrespect, of insulting religion in every way possible, they are outraged when President Trump has some fun with it.

I think that at least two serious points can be made.

The Democrats obviously hope that this controversy, largely of the their own making, can be used to split MAGA by prying conservative Christians away from the insufficiently devout Trump. They hope that somehow conservative Christians can be induced to embrace open borders, anti-patriotism, race and "gender" divisiveness, men pretending to be women and vice-versa, sordid crime-ridden city streets, higher taxation, rampant welfare state fraud, endless "green" boondoggles, one-party control of media, education and government... and the left's rampant atheism... just because President Trump doesn't fit the left's own stereotype of a religious bigot.

Yeah right, that's gonna work.

And secondly, this stuff illustrates how today's excessively moralistic politics is largely coming from the left. Who are the ones who are always condemning the morality of their opponents: 'racist!', ''bigot!', 'misogynist!', 'homophobe!', 'transphobe!', 'xenophobe!', 'fascist!'. It's a whole litany of moral insults and fire-and-brimstone condemnations. Just about every political policy that they advocate for is justified by moral arguments of one kind or another. All implying that anyone who opposes their agendas isn't just mistaken, but flat-out evil.

It's another illustration of how President Trump has flipped the American political script. The Democrats are now the party of the ruling government/media/education elites, while the Republicans are the party of the People. The Democrats are the tightly-wound intolerant party calling down moral judgments while Trump is having fun poking them with a stick.

Great summary.
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#63
Syne Offline

Note to current the Pope Leo: The walls around the Vatican were ordered by Pope Leo IV and completed around 852 AD following devastating raids by Muslim Arab Raiders who sacked St. Peters Basilica. So please don’t lecture us on walls, Immigration, war or the virtues of Islam.
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#65
Syne Offline
Only Democrats and maybe RINOs call Trump "Donnie." So this is either some non-believing atheist, establishment neocon, or a foreign power trying to sow division.

Polls still say Trump has nothing to repair with his base.
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Yazata Offline
Like I said before:

The Democrats obviously hope that this controversy, largely of the their own making, can be used to split MAGA by prying conservative Christians away from the insufficiently devout Trump. They hope that somehow conservative Christians can be induced to embrace open borders, anti-patriotism, race and "gender" divisiveness, men pretending to be women and vice-versa, sordid crime-ridden city streets, higher taxation, rampant welfare-state fraud, endless "green" boondoggles, one-party control of media, education and government... and the left's rampant atheism... just because President Trump doesn't fit the left's own stereotype of a religious bigot.

Yeah right, that's gonna work.

Or to put it another way, who can the Democrats run nationally that's better than President Trump in all the ways that matter to conservative Christians?

Nobody.

(Apr 20, 2026 11:14 PM)Syne Wrote: Only Democrats and maybe RINOs call Trump "Donnie." So this is either some non-believing atheist, establishment neocon, or a foreign power trying to sow division.

Polls still say Trump has nothing to repair with his base.

It comes from something called "Call to Activism".

https://www.calltoactivism.com/

They describe their mission this way:

Quote:OUR WORK

We deliver hard-hitting news and action-based infographic headlines to tens of millions of followers each day.

​Our goal is to help Democrats with messaging by defining issues on strong emotional terms that resonate with voters. We want to STOP allowing the GOP to win arguments. We want Democrats to stop playing Defense.

So these people most certainly don't speak for any faction of conservative Republicans, whether Christian or not, nor do they have any sense of what's happening within MAGA. 'Call to Activism' are obviously high on copium and are hallucinating.


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#67
Syne Offline
They seem to assume that Christians have never seen anything they don't like from Trump and this latest is somehow a huge surprise or especially egregious. Like they were 100% okay with "grab 'em by the p***y," Melania posing nude, multiple divorces, adultery, foul language, insults, etc.. They don't seem to understand that God uses flawed people, like King David.

But then the left treats government as their pseudo-religion, so they expect their politicians to be their spiritual betters.... or the cathartic expression of their own ids.
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#68
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:Or to put it another way, who can the Democrats run nationally that's better than President Trump in all the ways that matter to conservative Christians?

That sums up the matter nicely. IOW conservative Christians sold out their morals and convictions just to get their political agenda enforced. These aren't spiritual people with the spirit and love of Jesus in their hearts. They are cheap whores selling their souls for the quick fixes they imagine Trump can provide. Quick fixes to problems not going away any time soon. It confirms everything I have observed about the religious right. It is truly an anti-spirituality, driven by materialism and phobias and hate and bigotry. Thankfully there's only 1 and a half years left of Trump. Will Vance take up the torch for them? We'll see..But as always after a red shift in the vote, there will follow a blue shift of the nation. We'll see who the democrats can come up with this time.
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#69
Syne Offline
No, conservatives accepted a flawed vessel for the greatest number of their moral and policy priorities. You don't sell your soul over using a flawed tool. In Trump's case, many of his perceived flaws have actually been assets. The egotistical bull in a China shop mentality has proven the only way to accomplish many of conservatives most valued goals. So like King David, the flawed man can still be a great man, when doing good.

That you continue to talk like you personally know the love of Jesus is just a lie... albeit one you're probably delusional enough to believe (that's how pathology works).

Compare that to Democrats, who have no consistent moral compass but wherever the progressive wind blows. IOW, you're just projecting again, about who's "selling their souls for quick fixes."

I have my doubts of Vance. I'd prefer Rubio so far. At least between two guys with no executive experience, Rubio has proven he knows how to get things done.
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#70
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Quote:That you continue to talk like you personally know the love of Jesus is just a lie... albeit one you're probably delusional enough to believe (that's how pathology works).

If you had any real life experience in Christianity like me I'd believe that. But you don't. As usual you are only interested in attacking and maligning people you are incapable of arguing with. As if that somehow trumps my Christian experience. It doesn't.
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