Israel-Gaza War (and Iranian Distractions)

Because you cucks sing the same obsequiously PC pro Israel tune ad nauseam, I'm back yet again to add almost certainly the only dissenting opinion here, via:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV_HsiJg8Io
Scott has it right regarding the historicity and treacherous Israeli background scheming at work. I'm less convinced re an actual two state solution. Zionists will never accept that. It runs entirely counter to the Greater Israel Plan as embodied at the First Zionist Congress, Basel Switzerland 1897. There was a map drawn up - according to crazed Yahweh guaranteed land acquisition 'promise' as per Genesis 17:8. That sure is some long term planning stuck to ever so stubbornly! Partially bearing ghastly fruit here and now.

Although a willing front 'man' for James R in visibly expelling me from SF over 'unacceptable antisemitic' comments, Bells deserves some credit for stating the obvious now:
https://www.sciforums.com/threads/get-ou...st-3721455

OK - back to hibernation mode. Do carry on with your PC mainstream media approved worthless inputs.

(Nov 5, 2023 08:13 AM)Kornee Wrote: Because you cucks sing the same obsequiously PC pro Israel tune ad nauseam, I'm back yet again to add almost certainly the only dissenting opinion here, via:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV_HsiJg8Io
Scott has it right regarding the historicity and treacherous Israeli background scheming at work. I'm less convinced re an actual two state solution. Zionists will never accept that. It runs entirely counter to the Greater Israel Plan as embodied at the First Zionist Congress, Basel Switzerland 1897. There was a map drawn up - according to crazed Yahweh guaranteed land acquisition 'promise' as per Genesis 17:8. That sure is some long term planning stuck to ever so stubbornly! Partially bearing ghastly fruit here and now.

Although a willing front 'man' for James R in visibly expelling me from SF over 'unacceptable antisemitic' comments, Bells deserves some credit for stating the obvious now:
https://www.sciforums.com/threads/get-ou...st-3721455

OK - back to hibernation mode. Do carry on with your PC mainstream media approved worthless inputs.

Fuck off, you racist moron. I knew you couldn't help but come back for this, you lying piece of shit. See, anti-Semites don't have the integrity to stick by what they say: https://www.scivillage.com/thread-14016-...l#pid57763
It's only the "last straw" until they hear too much defense of Israel and can't help but come back to spew their antisemitic hate and Neo-Nazi recruiting videos.

It's not scheming to defend yourself and take territory from those invaders who sought to commit genocide and take yours. Every offer of a possible two-state solution has ALWAYS been turned down by the Muslim Arabs in Palestine. Israel has repeatedly given concessions, including returning territory, displacing its own citizens, and even allowing the Gaza Strip the autonomy to elect its own leaders and run its own internal affairs without any Israeli presence....which led to the election of Hamas and their subsequent terrorist attacks on Israel ever since.

(Nov 5, 2023 09:04 AM)Syne Wrote: Fuck off, you racist moron. I knew you couldn't help but come back for this, you lying piece of shit. See, anti-Semites don't have the integrity to stick by what they say: https://www.scivillage.com/thread-14016-...l#pid57763
It's only the "last straw" until they hear too much defense of Israel and can't help but come back to spew their antisemitic hate and Neo-Nazi recruiting videos.

It's not scheming to defend yourself and take territory from those invaders who sought to commit genocide and take yours. Every offer of a possible two-state solution has ALWAYS been turned down by the Muslim Arabs in Palestine. Israel has repeatedly given concessions, including returning territory, displacing its own citizens, and even allowing the Gaza Strip the autonomy to elect its own leaders and run its own internal affairs without any Israeli presence....which led to the election of Hamas and their subsequent terrorist attacks on Israel ever since.

Look in a mirror fool. Those pure polemic words apply to you. If you want to objectively defend the tribal supremacist state's appalling record, respond point-by-point to Scott's (and/or Bell's) arguments.
BTW - you never did answer my query - are you a Jew or close kin related? That alone would tend to explain your one-sided support for a slow genocide regime. Who unfortunately owing to their immense political power, have unanimous support from virtually all the politicians constituting what's left of the 'democratic Western democracies'.

As usual, you're far too lazy to just make specific points yourself. You always try to send people down a rabbit hole, so you always have the out of "you didn't address the specific point I intended." That's what trolls do, and why you don't deserve to be taken seriously. You've repeatedly demonstrated your complete inability to make any substantial arguments for yourself, only parroting and linking to overt anti-Semites.

Only racists dismiss the merit of an argument based solely on the ethnicity of the one presenting it. Thanks for continuing to be too stupid to hide your true nature.
There is no "slow genocide" other than the one against Jews. And it's only slow because they are effective at defending themselves. Genocidal attackers being killed, while telling civilians to leave the war zone, is not how anyone would ever attempt a genocide. But morons like you can't seem to fathom that simple fact.

(Nov 5, 2023 11:23 AM)Syne Wrote: As usual, you're far too lazy to just make specific points yourself. You always try to send people down a rabbit hole, so you always have the out of "you didn't address the specific point I intended." That's what trolls do, and why you don't deserve to be taken seriously. You've repeatedly demonstrated your complete inability to make any substantial arguments for yourself, only parroting and linking to overt anti-Semites.

Only racists dismiss the merit of an argument based solely on the ethnicity of the one presenting it. Thanks for continuing to be too stupid to hide your true nature.
There is no "slow genocide" other than the one against Jews. And it's only slow because they are effective at defending themselves. Genocidal attackers being killed, while telling civilians to leave the war zone, is not how anyone would ever attempt a genocide. But morons like you can't seem to fathom that simple fact.

Wrong fool. Scott Ritter is - IF you had actually watched that very informative vid - clearly not an antisemite. Just someone with the balls and expertise to call out the situation as it is.
Giving the wider perspective that MSM studiously avoids or at best distorts badly. No surprise given the ethnicity of those who own & controls essentially all US & most EU MSM.

Don't have to watch beyond this guy saying Israel funded and collaborated with Hamas to know, for a fact, he is an anti-Semite. There's zero evidence, and it's the same tired conspiratorial and racist crap (including your tired yarn about who controls the media) that all these anti-Semites use. Being an anti-Semite racist piece of shit yourself, it's no wonder you see no antisemitism in it.

And I guess you no longer have any shame for slinking back to this forum you said you were done with. Everywhere else must have had the good sense to not allow you to promote violence on their sites.

(Nov 5, 2023 11:59 AM)Syne Wrote: Don't have to watch beyond this guy saying Israel funded and collaborated with Hamas to know, for a fact, he is an anti-Semite. There's zero evidence, and it's the same tired conspiratorial and racist crap (including your tired yarn about who controls the media) that all these anti-Semites use. Being an anti-Semite racist piece of shit yourself, it's no wonder you see no antisemitism in it.

And I guess you no longer have any shame for slinking back to this forum you said you were done with. Everywhere else must have had the good sense to not allow you to promote violence on their sites.

I said bye bye. Not a vow to never return. Do try and understand the difference. But your extremely unpleasant vitriol sure was one big factor in walking away back then.

As for the purely opinionated flat denial of Israel's role in funding and cynically using Hamas as a divide and conquer pawn:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worl...ate-hamas/
https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Confl...ded-583082
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-...our-faces/
https://www.democracynow.org/2023/10/20/...ael_helped

Shown with above - and a whole string of likewise links easily found with a simple search - to be plain wrong. Suck it up.
Not mainstream enough? Those Israel based sites too 'antisemitic' to be trusted? Ha ha ha ha.
But thanks for confirming you went no further in that Scott Ritter interview than the very first 'antisemitic' comment that so offended you.

And you still refuse to state whether you are Jewish or Jew kin related. Something other than pure nasty nature seems to be motivating. But maybe just pure nasty nature.

When you say "it's the last straw for me. Bye bye SV. Wish I could say it was nice knowing you all," claiming that's not a final goodbye is either not comprehending the English language or flat out lying. Not that either would surprise me. If you don't like the vitriol, quit being a hateful anti-Semite.

So the Israelis supposedly "collaborated" with Hamas by having bigger threats, being duped by a cleric setting up charities, endorsing a university they didn't foresee as a future source of radicalization, and allowing autonomous Gazan elections and self-governance.
And then Israelis supposedly "funded" Hamas by trying to allow humanitarian aid they tried to supervise to make sure it didn't go to terrorists. The whole anti-Semitic world right now is calling for Israel to do just that, provide aid. But now they'd have zero chance to supervise where it goes. So it would be guaranteed to go directly to Hamas and help zero civilians.
Then Israeli supposedly "funded" Hamas by allowing more work permits, so civilians in Gaza had better opportunities.
Then the last article is just an anti-Semite trying to shoestring this whole conspiracy theory together, dropping typical anti-Semitic tropes to give himself away. (And yes, Democracy Now is far left, which very often corresponds with antisemitism.)

Plenty of Jews are critical of Israel. Jews, like anyone else, can prioritize their leftist politics over their heritage or protection of their own people (just look at leftist cities in the US and their crime rates). But a Jew criticizing another Jew doesn't magically make their criticism correct. No more than Mitt Romney criticizing Trump would be evidence, in itself, of Trump being wrong. It just happen to feed into your antisemitism.

If you *think* Ritter has any valid points, make them yourself dumbass. Not my problem if you can only find overt anti-Semites to make your arguments for you. That says a lot about your arguments.

Again, only racists are so concerned about the ethnicity of those they debate. It's a straight up ad hominem based solely on ethnicity. And if you had read more of my posts on other subjects, you'd already have an answer. But you're too lazy and the racist ad hominem is too tempting for you.

(Nov 5, 2023 11:42 AM)Kornee Wrote:

(Nov 5, 2023 11:23 AM)Syne Wrote: As usual, you're far too lazy to just make specific points yourself. You always try to send people down a rabbit hole, so you always have the out of "you didn't address the specific point I intended." That's what trolls do, and why you don't deserve to be taken seriously. You've repeatedly demonstrated your complete inability to make any substantial arguments for yourself, only parroting and linking to overt anti-Semites.

Only racists dismiss the merit of an argument based solely on the ethnicity of the one presenting it. Thanks for continuing to be too stupid to hide your true nature.
There is no "slow genocide" other than the one against Jews. And it's only slow because they are effective at defending themselves. Genocidal attackers being killed, while telling civilians to leave the war zone, is not how anyone would ever attempt a genocide. But morons like you can't seem to fathom that simple fact.

Wrong fool. Scott Ritter is - IF you had actually watched that very informative vid - clearly not an antisemite. Just someone with the balls and expertise to call out the situation as it is.
Giving the wider perspective that MSM studiously avoids or at best distorts badly. No surprise given the ethnicity of those who own & controls essentially all US & most EU MSM.

Scott Ritter is a convicted repeat offender pedophile &
the fact your listening to him says it all about what type of person you are.

(Nov 5, 2023 01:53 PM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: Scott Ritter is a convicted repeat offender pedophile &
the fact your listening to him says it all about what type of person you are.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/j...vidteather
Whether there was actual bad behavior involved or a not in Ritter's actual or alleged case(s), I won't even bother posting links to a very long list of infamous examples of government and government agencies known smear campaigns against whistleblowers. Even if true in Ritter's case, how is that evidence he has it wrong re Israel-Palestinians?
Stop being naive. And foolishly and improperly trying to establish some link from that to my character.

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Sigh.....linked to an imo much needed incisive counterview to the otherwise monochrome input here. Skewed foul-mouthed opposition from the usual suspect had to be expected. And now irrelevant alleged misbehavior from long ago gets thrown up as chaff by a rainbow person, I suspect of the T variety in LGBTQI+. [edit - oops, left out an A : https://bestlifeonline.com/what-lgbtqia-means/ Given time, maybe the entire alphabet? Wouldn't surprise.]
Sigh.