Random thoughts/comments

I hardly think these isolated incidents of ballot errors and dead people on the registeries amount to anything near an election being rigged by Democrats as Trump alleges. No wonder reports of blunders like these get laughed out of the courtroom, particularly when offered as evidence for some vastly orchestrated plan by one side to win the election.

(Nov 17, 2020 04:16 AM)Leigha Wrote: What the mainstream media hasn't been sharing:

https://shadilay.com/t/election-fraud-2020/407/6

From an outsider perspective it always appears very one sided. For instance if there is a strong consideration that it's a Democrat fraud it's stated so, there is no mention of any Republican frauds but then again some of the frauds mention deliberately don't mention which "side" it was meant to boost.

It's one of the main problems of using the spin of fraud as an argument, if you look too hard you'll find fraud exists for all sides (albeit a minority).

(Nov 17, 2020 06:40 AM)stryder Wrote:

(Nov 17, 2020 04:16 AM)Leigha Wrote: What the mainstream media hasn't been sharing:

https://shadilay.com/t/election-fraud-2020/407/6

From an outsider perspective it always appears very one sided.  For instance if there is a strong consideration that it's a Democrat fraud it's stated so, there is no mention of any Republican frauds but then again some of the frauds mention deliberately don't mention which "side" it was meant to boost.

It's one of the main problems of using the spin of fraud as an argument, if you look too hard you'll find fraud exists for all sides (albeit a minority).

I believe voter fraud goes on to some degree (in both parties), but this election had more controversy since an overwhelming number of Americans voted by mail in ballot. Trump had warned months prior to the election, that he felt the process would be a mess, and fraud would be harder to control, than in prior elections. This is why he urged his supporters to vote in person, at the very least, their votes would be ''protected.'' If the situation were reversed, I'm sure the Democrats would have demanded a recount, but we'll never know for sure. . .

(Nov 17, 2020 06:27 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: I hardly think

Yes, we know.

(Nov 17, 2020 06:40 AM)stryder Wrote: From an outsider perspective it always appears very one sided.  For instance if there is a strong consideration that it's a Democrat fraud it's stated so, there is no mention of any Republican frauds but then again some of the frauds mention deliberately don't mention which "side" it was meant to boost.

It's one of the main problems of using the spin of fraud as an argument, if you look too hard you'll find fraud exists for all sides (albeit a minority).

Since the legacy media is overwhelmingly run/staffed by Democrats, they would definitely let people know about any Republican voter fraud. That shows you how rare it is on one side. It's not a one sided bias; it's a one sided reality. Leftist, have few if any principles, believe the ends justifies whatever means necessary to accomplish it, including cheating to get/retain power.

(Nov 17, 2020 03:24 PM)Leigha Wrote: I believe voter fraud goes on to some degree (in both parties), but this election had more controversy since an overwhelming number of Americans voted by mail in ballot.

As I explained to Styder, obviously not to the same degree.

Yes, to some degree not the same.

I don’t think we’ll ever really know the truth (the American people as a whole) and that’s unsettling to me. :/

I’ve said this before....election reform may be Trump’s legacy. I don’t see that as a bad thing if they fix it although Democrats may want to take credit.

Fake news may well turn out to be another of Trumps legacies. Don’t see how CNN in particular is going to shake that stigma. Eventually, if they haven’t already, CNN will have to lie for the party they supported.

https://www.azfamily.com/news/us_world_n...QAqOhLf7Yk

"Voters in four states who had brought longshot lawsuits to disrupt President-elect Joe Biden's win and went nowhere in court dropped their cases Monday morning.

The cases were short-lived in Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania federal courts, and fed into a pro-Donald Trump legal strategy to block Biden's presidential win before the Electoral College formalizes it.

That effort is almost certain to fail -- even more so now. Cases seeking to block battleground states' popular vote wins for Biden are getting fewer by the day, with two from the Trump campaign before federal judges in Michigan and Pennsylvania, one from an elector in Georgia, and one from pollwatchers in Michigan..."

I wonder when the "fat lady sings," if she'll be singing the National anthem?

Regardless of how Biden won, he won. Because the media said so, right? lol

Biden has the right to assume he has won, and begin his transition, and Trump has the right to wait for all votes to be recounted, and all arguments to be finalized in the courts, before he concedes. But the precedent has been set, that news outlets can call elections, and that's a problem for our democracy....er, republic.

(Nov 17, 2020 10:19 PM)Leigha Wrote: I wonder when the "fat lady sings," if she'll be singing the National anthem?

Regardless of how Biden won, he won. Because the media said so, right? lol

Biden has the right to assume he has won, and begin his transition, and Trump has the right to wait for all votes to be recounted, and all arguments to be finalized in the courts, before he concedes. But the precedent has been set, that news outlets can call elections, and that's a problem for our democracy....er, republic.

Get ready for four years of the news blaming Trump for all Biden failures. By next election will voters who watch the news actually believe Biden never screwed up and it was all previous administration’s fault? The news’ only out is if Biden croaks and then they can stick it to Kamala. Even Josef Goebbels would be proud

Good to know our court system is working!

https://www.azfamily.com/news/us_world_n...256NwI-vFQ

"The Pennsylvania Supreme Court on Tuesday ruled 5-2 that a Trump campaign ballot processing observer in Philadelphia had no right to stand any particular distance away from election workers, and it's up to counties to decide where poll watchers can stand.

It's a significant loss for President Donald Trump's campaign at a moment in which the legal strategy to block President-elect Joe Biden's win and undermine the election results is crumbling and entering its final throes.

The state high court's ruling overturns an earlier decision that the Trump campaign had called a major win, even while it affected no actual votes in Pennsylvania. But that small win has propelled the Trump campaign in recent days to argue that vote counts across the state have been unfair and prompted them to push suspicions of fraud."