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Secular Sanity
Jul 14, 2019 06:03 PM
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(Jul 14, 2019 04:15 PM)Syne Wrote: We're not talking legally actionable words, deary.
She’s not talking about mere insults, dumbass. She’s talking about verbal harassment and she's right.
OSHA’s standards include intimidation and verbal abuse. Employers have to be proactive against bullying or they can be held liable for not providing a safe work environment.
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Leigha
Jul 14, 2019 06:16 PM
(Jul 14, 2019 06:03 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: (Jul 14, 2019 04:15 PM)Syne Wrote: We're not talking legally actionable words, deary.
She’s not talking about mere insults, dumbass. She’s talking about verbal harassment and she's right.
OSHA’s standards include intimidation and verbal abuse. Employers have to be proactive against bullying or they can be held liable for not providing a safe work environment.
Exactly, SS. It's not that we should all walk on egg shells with one another in the workplace, but bullying, if left unchecked, can create slippery slopes of what is tolerated, and then that's what brings about lawsuits.
Companies care about lawsuits, whether they are frivolous or not...they have to cover their bottoms.
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Syne
Jul 14, 2019 07:41 PM
(Jul 14, 2019 05:42 PM)Leigha Wrote: So, it's only bullying if it's legally actionable? No, as I just said "We're not talking legally actionable words".
(Jul 14, 2019 06:03 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: (Jul 14, 2019 04:15 PM)Syne Wrote: We're not talking legally actionable words, deary.
She’s not talking about mere insults, dumbass. She’s talking about verbal harassment and she's right.
OSHA’s standards include intimidation and verbal abuse. Employers have to be proactive against bullying or they can be held liable for not providing a safe work environment. This is an adult situation you are trying to erroneously apply to children.
(Jul 14, 2019 06:16 PM)Leigha Wrote: (Jul 14, 2019 06:03 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: (Jul 14, 2019 04:15 PM)Syne Wrote: We're not talking legally actionable words, deary.
She’s not talking about mere insults, dumbass. She’s talking about verbal harassment and she's right.
OSHA’s standards include intimidation and verbal abuse. Employers have to be proactive against bullying or they can be held liable for not providing a safe work environment.
Exactly, SS. It's not that we should all walk on egg shells with one another in the workplace, but bullying, if left unchecked, can create slippery slopes of what is tolerated, and then that's what brings about lawsuits.
Companies care about lawsuits, whether they are frivolous or not...they have to cover their bottoms.
Again, you're trying to erroneously apply an adult situation to children.
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Leigha
Jul 14, 2019 07:46 PM
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I think it's even worse for children, though. As adults, we have laws in place within our workplaces that protect us from harassment, etc but kids go to school, having to fend for themselves. It's hard as a kid to process bullying, we don't have the luxury of hindsight then, like we do now.
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Magical Realist
Jul 14, 2019 07:58 PM
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Syne
Jul 14, 2019 07:59 PM
(Jul 14, 2019 07:46 PM)Leigha Wrote: I think it's even worse for children, though. As adults, we have laws in place within our workplaces that protect us from harassment, etc but kids go to school, having to fend for themselves. It's hard as a kid to process bullying, we don't have the luxury of hindsight then, like we do now.
Well, teachers should be on top of the worst of it. But even when they report serious problem behavior, administrators and law enforcement often drops the ball (like the many warning signs of school shooters).
Coping skills can be taught, but not if you only show sympathy for every little problem a child faces, i.e. coddling. And if a child faces any abuse at home, they may not feel like they have anyone they can talk to about trouble at school and often a learned helplessness in the face of adult power imbalance. It's not an adults job to make sure a child never faces any problems. It's their job to prepare them to handle problems for themselves.
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Leigha
Jul 14, 2019 08:02 PM
(Jul 14, 2019 07:59 PM)Syne Wrote: (Jul 14, 2019 07:46 PM)Leigha Wrote: I think it's even worse for children, though. As adults, we have laws in place within our workplaces that protect us from harassment, etc but kids go to school, having to fend for themselves. It's hard as a kid to process bullying, we don't have the luxury of hindsight then, like we do now.
Well, teachers should be on top of the worst of it. But even when they report serious problem behavior, administrators and law enforcement often drops the ball (like the many warning signs of school shooters).
Coping skills can be taught, but not if you only show sympathy for every little problem a child faces, i.e. coddling. And if a child faces any abuse at home, they may not feel like they have anyone they can talk to about trouble at school and often a learned helplessness in the face of adult power imbalance. It's not an adults job to make sure a child never faces any problems. It's their job to prepare them to handle problems for themselves.
This, I agree with. Well said.
Over coddling can definitely back fire down the road...studies have even proven this.
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Leigha
Jul 15, 2019 06:26 PM
I stopped home for lunch from work and yay!! My EVP recorder was delivered today! lol
Time to go find some ghosts!
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Leigha
Jul 16, 2019 03:47 AM
Okay, well guys...I charged my new little EVP device and meh, it's kind of cheaply made. But, it is cheap so I guess I shouldn't complain. I then pressed record and let it record for five minutes. I played it back using the headphones it came with, and it's weird...it picks up like the air conditioning sound and other sounds clearly that might sound like a blur, without the device. Idk. I'm not sure I like the idea of waiting to hear something unexpected or unusual...so, maybe ghost hunting isn't for me.
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RainbowUnicorn
Jul 16, 2019 08:58 AM
(Jul 16, 2019 03:47 AM)Leigha Wrote: Okay, well guys...I charged my new little EVP device and meh, it's kind of cheaply made. But, it is cheap so I guess I shouldn't complain. I then pressed record and let it record for five minutes. I played it back using the headphones it came with, and it's weird...it picks up like the air conditioning sound and other sounds clearly that might sound like a blur, without the device. Idk. I'm not sure I like the idea of waiting to hear something unexpected or unusual...so, maybe ghost hunting isn't for me.
Quote:I'm not sure I like the idea of waiting to hear something unexpected or unusual...so, maybe ghost hunting isn't for me.
that ended quickly
irony that we are exiting the meta data era
maybe you could record pixies & fairy's in the wild instead of creaky old floor boards in a broom closet
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