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Guess who talks down to minorities

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Syne Offline
White Liberals Present Themselves as Less Competent in Interactions with African-Americans

According to new research by Cydney Dupree, assistant professor of organizational behavior at Yale SOM, white liberals tend to downplay their own verbal competence in exchanges with racial minorities, compared to how other white Americans act in such exchanges.
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They scanned 74 speeches delivered by white candidates over a 25-year period. Approximately half were addressed to mostly-minority audiences—at a Hispanic small business roundtable discussion or a black church, for example. They then paired each speech delivered to a mostly-minority audience with a comparable speech delivered at a mostly-white audience—at a mostly-white church or university, for example. The researchers analyzed the text of these speeches for two measures: words related to competence (that is, words about ability or status, such as “assertive” or “competitive”) and words related to warmth (that is, words about friendliness, such as “supportive” and “compassionate”).
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Stereotypical portrayals of black Americans generally show them as being less competent than their white counterparts, but not necessarily less friendly or warm, Dupree explains.

The team found that Democratic candidates used fewer competence-related words in speeches delivered to mostly minority audiences than they did in speeches delivered to mostly white audiences. The difference wasn’t statistically significant in speeches by Republican candidates....There was no difference in Democrats’ or Republicans’ usage of words related to warmth. “It was really surprising to see that for nearly three decades, Democratic presidential candidates have been engaging in this predicted behavior.”
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The researchers found that liberal individuals were less likely to use words that would make them appear highly competent when the person they were addressing was presumed to be black rather than white. No significant differences were seen in the word selection of conservatives based on the presumed race of their partner. “It was kind of an unpleasant surprise to see this subtle but persistent effect,” Dupree says. “Even if it’s ultimately well-intentioned, it could be seen as patronizing.”

Dupree and Fiske suspect that the behavior stems from a liberal person’s desire to connect with other races. One possible reason for the “competence downshift,” as the authors describe it, is that, regardless of race, people tend to downplay their competence when they want to appear likeable and friendly. But it’s also possible that “this is happening because people are using common stereotypes in an effort to get along,” Dupree says.

Initial data from follow-up studies suggest that describing a black person as highly intelligent, thus reversing the stereotype, or as already highly motivated to get along with whites, thus removing the need to prove goodwill, can reduce the likelihood that a white person will downplay their competence in their interactions with the black person.
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My hope is that this work will help include well-intentioned people who see themselves as allies but who may be unwittingly contributing to group divides.




Study: White Leftists Simplify Their Language For Minorities

Two researchers from Yale and Princeton Universities found that over a 25-year period, white Democratic political candidates patronized minorities by dumbing down their language so as to appear more approachable. They also tested whites who were not politicians to see if that also held true for them, and found that again, leftists dumbed down their language, while conservatives did not.
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“We often hear from social justice adherents that we carry an implicit bias toward people of other races, and then immediately point to anyone other than themselves. Now we see why. On average, the white left is guilty of believing minority individuals are of lower intelligence than they are and dumb down their speech in order to feel like they’re being kinder to them by doing so.”

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Syne Offline
Far too much cognitive dissonance I guess. Rolleyes

Just add this to facts such as there being the most racial segregation and income inequality in Democrat-run cities and that their policies seek to keep poor minorities poor and limit the growth of their populations.
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(Nov 30, 2018 12:33 AM)Syne Wrote: Far too much cognitive dissonance I guess. Rolleyes

Juts add this to facts such as there being the most racial segregation and income inequality in Democrat-run cities and that their policies seek to keep poor minorities poor and limit the growth of their populations.

Isn't it racist to assume that minorities are helpless and stupid enough to be manipulated by Democrats all the time?
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(Nov 30, 2018 12:58 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Nov 30, 2018 12:33 AM)Syne Wrote: Far too much cognitive dissonance I guess. Rolleyes

Juts add this to facts such as there being the most racial segregation and income inequality in Democrat-run cities and that their policies seek to keep poor minorities poor and limit the growth of their populations.

Isn't it racist to assume that minorities are helpless and stupid enough to be manipulated by Democrats all the time?

No, minorities being manipulated by Democrats is an objective fact. Facts just are; they do not impose a reason why.

You're assumption that it requires them to be "helpless and stupid" is racist.
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Quote:No, minorities being manipulated by Democrats is an objective fact. Facts just are; they do not impose a reason why.

You're assumption that it requires them to be "helpless and stupid" is racist.

No..that's your assumption. They'd have to be helpless and stupid to be manipulated so totally by "evil democrats". Real humans aren't like that. They make their own choices. That's what you conservatives preach isn't it?
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Syne Offline
(Nov 30, 2018 02:59 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:No, minorities being manipulated by Democrats is an objective fact. Facts just are; they do not impose a reason why.

You're assumption that it requires them to be "helpless and stupid" is racist.

No..that's your assumption. They'd have to be helpless and stupid to be manipulated so totally by "evil democrats". Real humans aren't like that. They make their own choices. That's what you conservatives preach isn't it?

Nope, still your racist assumption. They don't have to be helpless or stupid to be raised in an environment inundated with messages of victimhood and fearmongering that deprives them of hope, offers a ready target for blame, and readily excuses any personal shortcomings. It's a similar thing to what has happened with millennials, being coddled so they never have the chance to learn independence or develop a thicker skin.

Conservatives accept human nature at face value. Human nature is to accept the easy way, even if it is detrimental long-term. Democrats have just exploited the human nature of being selfish and shortsighted.
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Magical Realist Offline
(Nov 30, 2018 03:51 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Nov 30, 2018 02:59 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:No, minorities being manipulated by Democrats is an objective fact. Facts just are; they do not impose a reason why.

You're assumption that it requires them to be "helpless and stupid" is racist.

No..that's your assumption. They'd have to be helpless and stupid to be manipulated so totally by "evil democrats". Real humans aren't like that. They make their own choices. That's what you conservatives preach isn't it?

Nope, still your racist assumption. They don't have to be helpless or stupid to be raised in an environment inundated with messages of victimhood and fearmongering that deprives them of hope, offers a ready target for blame, and readily excuses any personal shortcomings. It's a similar thing to what has happened with millennials, being coddled so they never have the chance to learn independence or develop a thicker skin.

Conservatives accept human nature at face value. Human nature is to accept the easy way, even if it is detrimental long-term. Democrats have just exploited the human nature of being selfish and shortsighted.

I see. So conservatives make an exception for minorities and view them as slaves to mental manipulation instead of as humans responsible for their own beliefs and behaviors. Sounds like racism to me. I guess for you minorities are subhumans to be led around like sheep. You DO know minorities are overwhelmingly democrats don't you? The reason for that is because democrats are the party of the common folk, not the rich like the republicans. They also fight for civil rights and oppose racism, which is something minorities have a vested interest in. Did it ever occur to you that minorities make a rational and principled decision to be democrats?
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(Nov 30, 2018 04:24 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Nov 30, 2018 03:51 AM)Syne Wrote: Nope, still your racist assumption. They don't have to be helpless or stupid to be raised in an environment inundated with messages of victimhood and fearmongering that deprives them of hope, offers a ready target for blame, and readily excuses any personal shortcomings. It's a similar thing to what has happened with millennials, being coddled so they never have the chance to learn independence or develop a thicker skin.

Conservatives accept human nature at face value. Human nature is to accept the easy way, even if it is detrimental long-term. Democrats have just exploited the human nature of being selfish and shortsighted.

I see. So conservatives make an exception for minorities and view them as slaves to mental manipulation instead of as humans responsible for their own beliefs and behaviors. Sounds like racism to me. I guess for you minorities are subhumans to be led around like sheep. You DO know minorities are overwhelmingly democrats don't you? The reason for that is because democrats are the party of the common folk, not the rich like the republicans. They also fight for civil rights and oppose racism, which is something minorities have a vested interest in. Did it ever occur to you that minorities make a rational and principled decision to be democrats?

Nope, again, "slaves to mental manipulation" and "subhumans to be led around like sheep" are your own racist assumptions. See, you can't even keep yourself from thinking in cliched racist terms like "slaves" and "subhumans" when it comes to minorities. Dodgy

There's no exception at all. Those liabilities of human nature are universal. Some people are just more insidiously targeted. And it's no secret why. LBJ purportedly said it himself with his ploy of the Great Society that solidified the black vote and ushered in ensured generational poverty, Democrats founding the KKK and enforcing Jim Crow, Democrats especially pushing abortion in minority neighborhoods, Democrat-run cities having the most racial segregation and income inequality, and Democrats talking down to minorities. The college-educated elitists lie that they know anything about common folk (which they mistake for coastal leftists) and that Republicans are largely rich.

44 percent: That’s the percentage of Republicans who earn $250,000 per year — at least according to self-identified Democrats. The true figure is 2 percent.
- https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2018/0...story.html


Democrats only pander, as those policies that cater to liabilities in human nature are what enslave people to generational poverty...ensuring they remain beholden to Democrats "for 200 years". Their policies tell minorities they are "less than" by explicitly saying minorities need help and advantages (welfare and affirmative action) to compete with whites.
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Magical Realist Offline
(Nov 30, 2018 06:40 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Nov 30, 2018 04:24 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Nov 30, 2018 03:51 AM)Syne Wrote: Nope, still your racist assumption. They don't have to be helpless or stupid to be raised in an environment inundated with messages of victimhood and fearmongering that deprives them of hope, offers a ready target for blame, and readily excuses any personal shortcomings. It's a similar thing to what has happened with millennials, being coddled so they never have the chance to learn independence or develop a thicker skin.

Conservatives accept human nature at face value. Human nature is to accept the easy way, even if it is detrimental long-term. Democrats have just exploited the human nature of being selfish and shortsighted.

I see. So conservatives make an exception for minorities and view them as slaves to mental manipulation instead of as humans responsible for their own beliefs and behaviors. Sounds like racism to me. I guess for you minorities are subhumans to be led around like sheep. You DO know minorities are overwhelmingly democrats don't you? The reason for that is because democrats are the party of the common folk, not the rich like the republicans. They also fight for civil rights and oppose racism, which is something minorities have a vested interest in. Did it ever occur to you that minorities make a rational and principled decision to be democrats?

Nope, again, "slaves to mental manipulation" and "subhumans to be led around like sheep" are your own racist assumptions. See, you can't even keep yourself from thinking in cliched racist terms like "slaves" and "subhumans" when it comes to minorities.  Dodgy

There's no exception at all. Those liabilities of human nature are universal. Some people are just more insidiously targeted. And it's no secret why. LBJ purportedly said it himself with his ploy of the Great Society that solidified the black vote and ushered in ensured generational poverty, Democrats founding the KKK and enforcing Jim Crow, Democrats especially pushing abortion in minority neighborhoods, Democrat-run cities having the most racial segregation and income inequality, and Democrats talking down to minorities. The college-educated elitists lie that they know anything about common folk (which they mistake for coastal leftists) and that Republicans are largely rich.

44 percent: That’s the percentage of Republicans who earn $250,000 per year — at least according to self-identified Democrats. The true figure is 2 percent.
- https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2018/0...story.html


Democrats only pander, as those policies that cater to liabilities in human nature are what enslave people to generational poverty...ensuring they remain beholden to Democrats "for 200 years". Their policies tell minorities they are "less than" by explicitly saying minorities need help and advantages (welfare and affirmative action) to compete with whites.

No..like I said minorities choose the democratic party because they fight for civil rights and fight against racism. There's no forcing anyone into anything. There is no enslavement here. Minorities are so used to being discriminated against all their lives they favor any efforts at all to eliminate it . That's why they are democrats. It has nothing to do with them being greedy or selfish or anything. Being antibigotry is a noble cause in its own right. Hell it's one of the main reasons I'm democrat. Republicans are the party of greedy white bigots. That's good enough reason to vote democrat.
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Syne Offline
(Nov 30, 2018 06:46 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Nov 30, 2018 06:40 AM)Syne Wrote: Nope, again, "slaves to mental manipulation" and "subhumans to be led around like sheep" are your own racist assumptions. See, you can't even keep yourself from thinking in cliched racist terms like "slaves" and "subhumans" when it comes to minorities.  Dodgy

There's no exception at all. Those liabilities of human nature are universal. Some people are just more insidiously targeted. And it's no secret why. LBJ purportedly said it himself with his ploy of the Great Society that solidified the black vote and ushered in ensured generational poverty, Democrats founding the KKK and enforcing Jim Crow, Democrats especially pushing abortion in minority neighborhoods, Democrat-run cities having the most racial segregation and income inequality, and Democrats talking down to minorities. The college-educated elitists lie that they know anything about common folk (which they mistake for coastal leftists) and that Republicans are largely rich.

44 percent: That’s the percentage of Republicans who earn $250,000 per year — at least according to self-identified Democrats. The true figure is 2 percent.
- https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2018/0...story.html


Democrats only pander, as those policies that cater to liabilities in human nature are what enslave people to generational poverty...ensuring they remain beholden to Democrats "for 200 years". Their policies tell minorities they are "less than" by explicitly saying minorities need help and advantages (welfare and affirmative action) to compete with whites.

No..like I said minorities choose the democratic party because they fight for civil rights and fight against racism. There's no forcing anyone into anything. Minorities are so used to being discriminated against all their lives they favor any efforts at all to eliminate it . That's why they are democrats. It has nothing to do with them being greedy or selfish or anything. Being antibigotry is a noble cause. Hell it's one of the main reasons I'm democrat.

Your repeated proclamations don't mean much in the face of reality. But I understand your need to convince yourself it's true...considering your obvious implicit racism.
Who said anything about "forcing anyone"? O_o
Since the vast majority of minorities live in largely Democrat-run and populated big cities, who do you think they have experience of discriminating them? O_o
Again, you're the one saying they're "greedy", while I'm saying all people tend to be selfish.

You really just can't help yourself, can you? Dodgy
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