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The YouTube Shooter

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Yazata Offline
This interested me, since I used to live in South City a few blocks from the San Bruno line and I still frequent that general area. (I was about 10 miles south of there today when all this went down.)

The police are calling it a domestic, that the female shooter had wanted to break up with her boyfriend with an emphatic exclamation mark and several other people got in the way and got shot.

But since her name has been revealed, it might have been something else. She seems to have had grudges against YouTube. Apparently they weren't cooperating in her monetizing her YouTube channels as she had hoped. I guess she hoped to get rich being a social media 'star' and it wasn't working out.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/03/youtube-...ghdam.html

Here's one of her websites (it will probably be taken down soon). Her Facebook and Instagram pages are already down.

http://nasimabc.com/index.html

This one seems to have identical content:

http://nasimesabz.com/

All four of her YouTube pages (in English, Farsi and Turkish) have this notice in a red box:

"This account has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of YouTube's policy against spam, deceptive practices, and misleading content or other Terms of Service violations."

Well, I guess! Bursting into YouTube's headquarters with a gun and shooting the place up would definitely qualify as a Terms of Service violation.

She appears to be an Iranian immigrant, but doesn't look particularly Islamic to me. She reportedly said she was Bahai (who are persecuted by the Muslim majority in Iran). She appears to have been a militant vegan and something of an animal rights activist. She lived in Southern California and might be part of the large Iranian community centered in Los Angeles, many of whom were more secular and Westernized individuals who fled the Islamic revolution when the Shah was overthrown. Most of them have fit into American life very well and are credits to their community. This lady just appears to be crazy.

Here's a very amateurish 'parody' video she made:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5dax32

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...im-aghdam/
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C C Offline
Based purely on the superficial details of the site, she seems to have been a Persian vegan and animal-rights activist, family values crusader, capped with a conspiracy persecution complex -- who also had a bent for modeling? Her Iranian TV celebrity-hood might or might not be the case (she'll never be the next Shohreh Aghdashloo in the US now). Perhaps her paranoia featured its own self-fulfilling prophecies that required her to go out in a "blaze of martyrdom" as she struck a blow against her "enemies".

Some of those photos look odd. As if she image-edited herself with some of the animals and the backgrounds. Definitely that one with the Moon, or else it's just an old-fashioned photography backdrop.

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#3
Yazata Offline
The police have changed their tune and dropped the 'shot her boyfriend' narrative. Apparently the worst injured individual from YouTube, a man about her age who was delivered to the hospital in critical condition (and assumed to be the boyfriend), is conscious and able to talk, so he may have told investigators he didn't have a clue who she was.

It now develops that her family reportedly made a missing person's report on her in Southern California and police subsequently found her sleeping in her car up in the Bay Area somewhere and there's record of that police contact.

Reportedly her brother contacted Mountain View police (Mountain View is where Google, YouTube's parent company is headquartered) and warned them before this happened that she intended to do some violence at YouTube. But the San Bruno police said they received no heads-up from Mountain View.

Apparently part of her gripe with YouTube involved videos showing animals being slaughtered and a dog being boiled alive by cooks in China. YouTube considered that inappropriate content.

https://gizmodo.com/what-we-know-about-y...1824313816

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/you...ut-n862586
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#4
Syne Offline
Female mass shooters are very rare, and even though not as rare as most think, handguns are recent rarities in mass shootings.

It is sounding like police may have dropped the ball again.
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confused2 Offline
In the industry I worked in for a while (traffic, programmer) we had a thing called 'feasons'. Like you could put super safe barriers on every mile of (UK) motoway at a cost of (say) $800M and it would save maybe two lives a year - technically feasable but not a reasonable allocation of available resources. A feasonable decision is always going to be questionable. Why weren't resources diverted from X to Y when diversion to Y could have prevented a tragedy? Why isn't every female with a grudge against her ex-boyfriend/employer/politician under constant surveillance? In the real world they aren't slipping through a net that could have stopped them before they killed - there is no net in place - it isn't 'feasonable' to maintain such a net.
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Yazata Offline
(Apr 4, 2018 06:01 AM)Yazata Wrote: Here's one of her websites (it will probably be taken down soon). Her Facebook and Instagram pages are already down.

http://nasimabc.com/index.html

This one seems to have identical content:

http://nasimesabz.com/

They both seem to be gone. I don't know why the past is essentially.... erased... when some internet mogul's sensitivities are offended.

It's a little scary given that so many people, businesses and agencies keep all of their records in the "cloud".

It's reminiscent of the Ministry of Truth in George Orwell's 1984.
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Syne Offline
(Apr 5, 2018 01:02 AM)confused2 Wrote: In the industry I worked in for a while (traffic, programmer) we had a thing called 'feasons'. Like you could put super safe barriers on every mile of (UK) motoway at a cost of (say) $800M and it would save maybe two lives a year - technically feasable but not a reasonable allocation of available resources. A feasonable decision is always going to be questionable. Why weren't resources diverted from X to Y when diversion to Y could have prevented a tragedy?  Why isn't every female with a grudge against her ex-boyfriend/employer/politician under constant surveillance? In the real world they aren't slipping through a net that could have stopped them before they killed - there is no net in place - it isn't 'feasonable' to maintain such a net.
Her father told police she was angry with YouTube, when he reported her missing, and when they called to say they found her (sleeping in her car), he reiterated the warning. After learning where she was, her brother also warned authorities about her possibly taking action.
From family members, these should have been taken as credible.
(Apr 5, 2018 04:10 AM)Yazata Wrote: They both seem to be gone. I don't know why the past is essentially.... erased... when some internet mogul's sensitivities are offended.

It's a little scary given that so many people, businesses and agencies keep all of their records in the "cloud".

It's reminiscent of the Ministry of Truth in George Orwell's 1984.

“You think there’s any chance whatsoever that a mass shooters hateful Instagram and YouTube channels would be pulled immediately if they were NRA members as opposed to liberal Vegan PETA activists?” Trump Jr. tweeted. “Asking for a few million friends in the @NRA.”

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