Sometimes my mind looks at things from different perspectives. I was just looking at a video on Dark Matter(DE) and Dark Energy(DE) and I thought why aren't theists taking advantage of these mysterious components that make up 95% of the observable universe. DM can't be observed directly, it permeates space time (omnipresent?), we can't sense it....get my drift. It's like a description of heaven, can't be seen, doesn't interact directly etc.
I'll give theists something else to chew on.......want to know where the grams lost go, when you die(can't recall the #)? DM is the afterlife, my theist friends. It's all that's holy, your favourite deity's RV, the collective consciousness of all that's ever lived, the spark of life itself and it's our universe's turn for a visit.
Theists tend to see their beliefs as being wholly above physical evidence of any kind. Such things would risk removing some degree of free will from the question of belief.
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(Aug 4, 2017 08:48 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Not meant to be taken seriously
Sometimes my mind looks at things from different perspectives. I was just looking at a video on Dark Matter(DE) and Dark Energy(DE) and I thought why aren't theists taking advantage of these mysterious components that make up 95% of the observable universe. DM can't be observed directly, it permeates space time (omnipresent?), we can't sense it....get my drift. It's like a description of heaven, can't be seen, doesn't interact directly etc. [...]
Traditionally DM wasn't considered very interesting "stuff", anyway, with respect to engendering complex affairs like life. Only gravity as a connective agency for organization. That might have changed in some corners in the last few years. But given there being so many DM headlines that will proclaim a new ripple of insight and then seem to vanish weeks or months later with no lingering effect... it's hard to say.
Christian movements like the one Nancey Murphy is associated with or has referred to in the past, that depart from Greek influenced interpretations of scripture, might remotely perk-up about the kind of speculation below. But otherwise Syne is probably right about the disinterest of the mainstream.
[...] But cosmologists have a hard time letting go of their prejudices. For years they convinced themselves that although the visible universe may be secondary in mass, it is where all the interesting things happen. Extrapolating from their very limited knowledge of how dark matter works, cosmologists assumed that dark matter consisted of just one kind of substance with a limited range of behavior, tending to gather in giant, diffuse clouds. They generally regarded dark matter as little more than the glue that holds together the visible universe and all its rich diversity.
Two recent advances hint at just how much we have been missing about the dark side. [...] Their key insight was discarding the old idea that dark matter is one thing and one thing only. That was when they recognized that some dark matter might not be so simple. A secondary component (as much as one-sixth of the total dark matter) might be able to interact, collapse and form a hidden, dark disk within the visible disk of our galaxy; the theorists therefore call it “double disk” dark matter.
Double-disk dark matter could do many of the same complex things that ordinary matter does. And there is so much dark matter overall that the secondary kind could weigh as much as all of the visible parts of the universe. “The fact that nobody had thought about this before is incredible,” Randall says. “What’s really fun about this idea is that it opens up a whole new world.”
[...] Acknowledging that dark matter might have some of the same kind of diversity as visible matter may seem a minor adjustment. But it’s one that has, as Randall narrates in an excited staccato, “super-dramatic consequences.” If one variety of dark matter can clump together, it could form a panoply of previously unimagined dark structures. It could ball up into dark stars surrounded by dark planets made of dark atoms. In the most extravagant leap of possibility, this new kind of dark matter might even allow the existence of dark life.
We could be sitting right on top of a whole shadow galaxy and not even know it.
“We open our eyes and we think we're seeing the whole world out there. But what has become clear—and really just in the last few centuries—is that when you look at the electro-magnetic spectrum we are seeing less than 1/10 Billionth of the information that's riding on there. So we call that visible light. But everything else passing through our bodies is completely invisible to us.
Even though we accept the reality that's presented to us, we're really only seeing a little window of what's happening.”
― David Eagleman
No, they believe in miracles because they aren't aware of the real power of belief. Granted, any desperation in getting others to believe their explanation for unexplained events is the same.
No, they believe in miracles because they aren't aware of the real power of belief. Granted, any desperation in getting others to believe their explanation for unexplained events is the same.
Sounds like they're exploiting unexplained phenomena to me.
(Aug 6, 2017 04:22 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Sounds like they're exploiting unexplained phenomena to me.
Really? So UFO believers hypocritically exploiting the science they claim to believe/understand sounds the same as creation believers being consistent in their belief that everything comes from god? I'm sorry you feel that way. If you can't differentiate the two, there's nothing I could say to change how you feel.
(Aug 6, 2017 04:22 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Sounds like they're exploiting unexplained phenomena to me.
Really? So UFO believers hypocritically exploiting the science they claim to believe/understand sounds the same as creation believers being consistent in their belief that everything comes from god? I'm sorry you feel that way. If you can't differentiate the two, there's nothing I could say to change how you feel.
No..theists simply exploit unexplained phenomena to support their belief system. It's what you accuse ufo believers of, and theists do the same thing. You screwed up again. How does it feel?
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