Why female sex robots are more dangerous than you think

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/fe...dangerous/

EXCERPT: [...] I's a disappointing reflection of the way women are portrayed in society - Ma’s clever three dimensional creation is about as one dimensional as you can get. Is all this cause for concern? Of course. Because right now more money is being spent on making these things than thinking about the ethical and societal ramifications. We already know porn provides a terrifying reflection on how society views women, which can manifest itself in real life. But what happens when machines start contributing to the objectification of women too?

There's also a real worry that people will abuse robots assigned human traits - whether it be in a sexual or physical way. Whitby thinks it's a legitimate concern: “Will people mistreat robots? Oh yes, I’m sure. The reason I’m sure is because they already do. The way people first meet artificial intelligence is in a character in a video game that they’re shooting at.”

[...] Dr Kathleen Richardson, a Senior Research Fellow in the Ethics of Robotics at the Centre for Computing and Social Responsibility, has done extensive research into this area - especially in regards to women. She says: “A machine, like the portrayal of women in pornography, prostitution and the media are entirely objects for male gratification. But women aren't like what males see in pornography or in prostitution or in popular media.

“In these areas women are coerced or told how to be have act or behave with a threat of money or violence. In real life, women really have their own thoughts and feelings and preferences and desires. It seems logical that if this extreme control can't be experienced by men with real women, the only next step is to create artificial objects.”

The people creating these robots are also partly to blame. A 2014 Nesta study titled ‘Our Work Here Is Done: Visions of a Robot Economy’ examined how gender is assigned to machines in the workplace. Researchers found that ‘male' robots are thought to be better at repairing technical devices while 'female' robots are thought to be more suited to domestic and caring services.

In other words: people with gendered ideas make robots that conform to gender norms, which then perpetuates existing stereotypes...

MORE: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/fe...dangerous/

It’s creepy, but this is even creepier.

Call for a Ban on Child Sex Robots

Certain fetishes are addictions that should not be fed or enabled in any way shape or form.

Quote:She also criticizes the report for what she said is a failure to address the issue of gender.

"Why does the report have a picture of a male robot on the cover when we know that the doll market - which is driving this - is mainly female dolls?

"It is perpetrating the idea that this is gender-neutral, but the truth is that there are not many women buying such dolls, it is largely driven by men and male ideas of sexuality."

Yep, definitely a "man thing".  I can’t see myself ever having sex or even developing a relationship with a robot. Nope, not happening.

Well, maybe, if it bought me a car.  

(Jul 6, 2017 07:27 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: It’s creepy, but this is even creepier.

Call for a Ban on Child Sex Robots

Certain fetishes are addictions that should not be fed or enabled in any way shape or form.

"Dr Kathleen Richardson [...] agreed with the report authors that child sex robots should be banned but stopped short of calling for a ban on all such sex dolls. "The real problem here is not the dolls but the commercial sex trade. Sex robots are just another type of pornography," she said."

Pedophiles will go the route of claiming that the dolls / robots help prevent them from seeking real children. Similar to their spiels in the past about illustrated or CGI pornography satisfying their needs without the traditional trafficking of minors for photos / film / video. (Such definitely doesn't seem to suffice for all of them; not to mention even that apparently still providing to a percentage an original stimulus or awakening for a potential, active predation.)

But without hardly any publicly visible or above-ground organizational movements anymore, it's difficult to see how they would deliver any political clout ("It's our turn! We're next. Give us that much at least, the child sex-humanoids!"). Which is to say, I see that NAMBLA has fizzled to just a few members and CSC is inoperative. Most of the international ones seem to have been short-lived or likewise expired.[*]

Didn't realize that Allen Ginsberg had been a member of NAMBLA (or forgot). The indirect comment from Pat Califia seems to attest that it was a numbers game back in earlier days for allowing the youngest-seeking chickenhawks in Gay Rights activity. (In essence: "You characters get the hell away from us now!")

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[*] After a closer look, maybe they're not all passé.

Personally I'd let those who desire machines over the real thing stand in line at Macy's for the latest model all day long.

What about the dildo? Is it not a machine? Perhaps only if it's the deluxe pearl handle pistol grip variety with variable vibration controls and drill attachment with added extensions. Would an entire adult male robot even be required? The dildo has been a fairly adequate substitute for the male for centuries, low maintenance and almost always ready for action.

(Jul 7, 2017 12:24 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Personally I'd let those who desire machines over the real thing stand in line at Macy's for the latest model all day long.

You'd think the robots would have an upcoming big market in countries where men outnumber women significantly. But the Chinese bachelors save their money too much; and the wife-less, outcast, and increasingly prone to violence Indian males couldn't afford them.

Quote:What about the dildo? Is it not a machine? Perhaps only if it's the deluxe pearl handle pistol grip variety with variable vibration controls and drill attachment with added extensions. Would an entire adult male robot even be required? The dildo has been a fairly adequate substitute for the male for centuries, low maintenance and almost always ready for action.

Speaking of which... Despite Russia having the opposite situation of more women than men, sex toys contrarily don't sell well in Russia. Blame being dispensed to the lingering Soviet legacy.

For whatever reason (heavy alcoholism?), in the hillbilly perversion department the Russians seem to rank in the upper echelon for incest. I'd hate to hear the assorted familial titles such an owner might have his robot programmed to utter to him during sex. ("Ты тот, кто есть машина, племянник!")

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(Jul 7, 2017 12:24 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Personally I'd let those who desire machines over the real thing stand in line at Macy's for the latest model all day long.

What about the dildo? Is it not a machine? Perhaps only if it's the deluxe pearl handle pistol grip variety with variable vibration controls and drill attachment with added extensions. Would an entire adult male robot even be required? The dildo has been a fairly adequate substitute for the male for centuries, low maintenance and almost always ready for action.

What?  A dildo? You mean vibrator, right?  A dildo is just a tool to increase the sensitivity and pressure on the clitoris, or it can be used for show. Geez, you better read up, Zinman.  Better late than never.  Besides, that’s just good ole fashion masturbation right there.  You don’t see us calling you out for your pocket pussies or fleshlights, do you?  I would never claim that those tools dehumanize women.  Sex robots, on the other hand, are advertised as the perfect subservient woman.  I think that’s what Jeffry Dahmer was trying to create, wasn’t it, sex zombies?  

The Zinman appears to have a little more sex tool knowledge than his detractors. I once dated a gal who worked in a sex shop. If you wanted a dildo that you could attach to a saddle then it could be bought. For the guys she once told me that a popular item was the 'Auto-Sucker' sold to long distance truck drivers. I think that apparatus is about as close to a female sex machine that one could get. The Zinman had no use for the artificial, just so we're clear on that one.....lol .......oh, and I didn't drive a truck.

(Jul 7, 2017 12:37 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: The Zinman appears to have a little more sex tool knowledge than his detractors. I once dated a gal who worked in a sex shop. If you wanted a dildo that you could attach to a saddle then it could be bought. For the guys she once told me that a popular item was the 'Auto-Sucker' sold to long distance truck drivers. I think that apparatus is about as close to a female sex machine that one could get. The Zinman had no use for the artificial, just so we're clear on that one.....lol .......oh, and I didn't drive a truck.

You’re missing the point, Zinman.  Your comment was sort of stereotypical.  Dildos and vibrators are different products.  You can’t have an orgasm with a dildo.  That’s not real, it's porn.  Women want enhancement, not an adequate substitute.  Our products are designed to bring us together, unlike sex robots, which are primarily sold as replacements. 

LELO is now one of the leading designer brands for intimate lifestyle products, which has taken a non-traditional approach to the design and manufacture of sex toys, utilizing high design concepts that are non-representational of the sexual anatomy of the male body, a style that is now widely adopted across the sex toy industry, and preferred by women.

In fact, the company recently released a short film.  

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/YTeGZB4paSs

"AN AGING PLAYWRIGHT CREATES WOMANHOOD IN HIS OWN IMAGE"

More torture, more boobs, more ass—that’s what we had!

Official LELO Movie Trailer

No worries, though, you’ll probably still be able to find those outdated, sleazy products at your local truck stop.  

Quote:You’re missing the point, Zinman.  Your comment was sort of stereotypical.  Dildos and vibrators are different products.  You can’t have an orgasm with a dildo.

No, I'm not advocating their use by any means. Many of these products are gag gifts (no pun intended). Good for a few laughs. To know what I know now, no robot can measure up (npi). I must have lost touch somewhere with modern sex technology. Must be a product of the social media age, sex over the phone......"does it feel good for you baby, oh yeah, oooooooh......sorry only pocket dialed. No, no, I just went over my limit...... aaaarrrrgggghhhh!"

I wish I knew what a fem sexbot wants.

I should point out that Alice bears no resemblance to any person alive, dead or posting on this forum.
http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-07-07