As usual, MR's intellectual dishonesty just avoids what he can't refute:
(Jun 22, 2025 01:33 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]You refuse to see Israel as the target of eradication, by every surrounding Muslim nation, because they are the more successful and powerful than any one of those nations, heedless of the obvious collective power imbalance. And you ignore that power imbalance because they are more successful in general (typical antisemitic trope), so they're damned either way.
Apparently he couldn't refute the simple fact that there are far fewer Jews than Muslims and that there are many Muslim nations seeking the genocide of Jews. Many nations, with far larger populations, against one. Simple-minded oppression-math just doesn't add up.
(Jun 23, 2025 05:53 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:You can't wrap your tiny little head around the fact that the world isn't as black and white as the powerful always being the oppressor and the poor always being the virtuous.
I'm realistic enough to know that while not every greater power is oppressive, every oppressive power is greater than the people it oppresses. This rule is true across the board, from the Nazis and the Jews, whites and blacks, heteros and gays, the US and Latino immigrants, Communist China and revolutionaries, and of course Israel and palestinians. It's how oppression even becomes possible to begin with.
If not every greater power is oppressive, name some.
Otherwise, you're just lying about "not every," and your ideology is just black and white absolutism.
Quote:Quote:It's childish thinking that reduces complex issues to the simplistic matter of what team to root for... always the poorer underdog, regardless of any other facts.
Yep..I always root for the underdog who is being oppressed by the greater power. That's the ethics of human rights. Clearly you lack a college education. You should study up on it sometime.
Ideological absolutism. Just like I said. Childish thinking
to reduce complex issues to the simplistic matter of what team to root for (
your own words, dipshit). An antisemite lecturing others on human rights, what a hypocritical piece of shit.
Quote:Quote:That you refuse to see the constant onslaught Israel has endured exposes your unquestioning loyalty to leftist antisemitism.
LOL Careful there. You're starting to employ the so-called trope of the underdog to Israel themselves now, as being the innocent victim of constant onslaught and anti-semitism. Unfortunately its hard to rationally support that when it has the most powerful nation on earth on its side, state of the art military weaponry, and can basically bomb the shit out of surrounding countries willy nilly without fear of recourse.
No, it's just a fact of history. Israel has been forced to become so powerful just so it could survive the combined attacks of all its genocidal neighbors.
Learn some history.
Quote:Quote:Again, because you have a personal vested interest in your own identity as an oppressed person and seek solidarity for affirmation.
If you mean I understand the plight of all underdogs and minorities suffering oppression and dehumanization for who they are, then yes I do. Being one of those myself, I have a burden for the downtrodden and outcast and despised. You make it sound like a weakness. I see it as an invincible strength and insight into the suffering of others.
Exactly. You can't see the reality because you have a personal, emotional investment in your ideology of oppression. See, you even tout it as a great strength. That's how personally invested you are in that narrative.
Quote: You probably never felt empathy for the underdog in your whole life, being used to your privileged life of hatred and prejudice and xenophobia. That's why I don't really expect much from you ethically, as someone who might grasp the need to stand up for the weak and marginalized against the more powerful. That would actually require a moral backbone and a courage you clearly don't have.
I've told you before, I've spend at least half of my life dirt poor and some of it even homeless, including in Portland. Your absolutist ideology just doesn't let you comprehend the simple fact that someone could personally know what it's like and still disagree with you. That's how brainwashed you are.
Quote:Quote:The Jews are uniquely sympathetic, which is why Palestine still exists and there is no actual attempt at genocide in Gaza. The only reason Hamas was even capable of the Oct 7th terrorist attack is because Israel has allowed Gaza to govern itself. The only reason 53 hostages remain in Gaza since Oct 2023 is because Israel has shown restraint in putting civilians in jeopardy. They didn't have to, just like they don't have to allow Muslim Arabs to live in Israel and even hold government office.
Wow..so virtuous of Israel to allow people to coexist in their own country like every other democracy on earth does. Then why the need to confine them, all 2 million of them, in the Gaza strip in a third world country rife with poverty and starvation and disease? Why not work with them and try to help them improve their living conditions instead of bombing them and making them worse? That would actually have the effect over time of disempowering Hamas and its cause to the Palestinian people.
You mean like the ONLY democracy in the Middle East?
Moron, I'm talking about Arabs/Muslims IN ISRAEL. You're so ignorant of basic facts.
Again, no Muslim country will take Palestinian refugees, because they are seem as that dangerous... even to other Muslims.
Why won't those Muslim countries work with Palestinians?
Quote:Quote:No one is currently "stamping out a whole ethnicity," but antisemites have to make up such conspiracies to justify their unbridled hatred.
Then what do you call the continued bombing and starvation of the whole Gaza population for nothing more than the act of Hamas holding 53 hostages? Why can't they just target Hamas and quit blaming Palestinians for their crimes? It's because to Israel the Palestinians are viewed as animals and need to be treated as such. It's part of their whole genocidal mindset--to dehumanize the people you are trying to exterminate. It's the same logic by which the Nazis killed Jews. And the only way to end it is by treating these poor people with the respect and dignity they deserve as human beings instead of as murderous terrorists. That's why all the nations and the UN support the palestinians and recognize Israel's actions in Gaza as war crimes that they will answer for in the international courts. It's a matter of universal human rights, something you seem largely and inexcuseably ignorant of.
You just keep demanding that antisemitic lies are true. That's what makes you a willfully ignorant antisemite. You certainly keep repeating antisemitic tropes.
Hamas couldn't hide and keep holding hostages without being abetted by the Gaza population. Israel is targeting Hamas, but you'd rather believe antisemitic propaganda... even when shown it's a lie.
Again, why is EVERY Muslim nation afraid to take in Palestinians?
You're the one who made training kindergartners to be terrorists sound like a good thing. No wonder you can't fathom why EVERY Muslim nation is afraid of Palestinians and people treat them like terrorists. You're so morally bankrupt that you think terrorism is good.