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Leigha
Jan 7, 2021 09:22 PM
Over the weekend, I watched a random video having to do with frozen ponds, lakes, etc. I couldn't tell you the title of the video, or how I stumbled upon it. Wasn't paying attention, at the time. I didn't view the entire thing, but basically ...it showed a guy picking up small ice blocks from a frozen over lake, and dropping the blocks on the ground. The blocks would crack open into several pieces of what looked like, ice pick shaped rods. It was one of the most beautiful, yet unusual things I've seen happen in nature. But, I can't seem to find any information on what that process was. The results keep turning up ''falling into a lake,'' and ''how to survive falling into a lake.'' Not sure how to describe this, but does anyone know what I'm talking about?
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What is the process called when ice blocks fall on the ground, and shatter into ice pick looking shapes?
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Yazata
Jan 8, 2021 12:42 AM
I always thought that ice came in little cubes that you put in your drink.
But here's something that might be similar. They call it ice 'chandeliering'.
https://sciencenotes.org/how-chandelier-...ing-works/
https://weather.com/news/weather/video/i...yak-russia
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Leigha
Jan 8, 2021 04:12 AM
(Jan 8, 2021 12:42 AM)Yazata Wrote: I always thought that ice came in little cubes that you put in your drink.
But here's something that might be similar. They call it ice 'chandeliering'.
https://sciencenotes.org/how-chandelier-...ing-works/
https://weather.com/news/weather/video/i...yak-russia
Wow, how cool is that! But, not what what I'm thinking. Maybe I'll run across that video again. There are a good number of ice ''shattering'' videos, but the key difference with what that specific video captured, is the ice shattered into stick like pieces. Like a deck of cards fanned out, the ice ''sticks'' were fanned out when the block shattered. It was really something.
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Syne
Jan 8, 2021 05:12 AM
If it was YouTube, check your history.
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Leigha
Jan 8, 2021 02:10 PM
(This post was last modified: Jan 8, 2021 02:11 PM by Leigha.)
I watched it on YouTube, on my Smart TV and it doesn’t store vids as my phone does. Oh well. :/
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Secular Sanity
Jan 8, 2021 02:28 PM
(Jan 7, 2021 09:22 PM)Leigha Wrote: Over the weekend, I watched a random video having to do with frozen ponds, lakes, etc. I couldn't tell you the title of the video, or how I stumbled upon it. Wasn't paying attention, at the time. I didn't view the entire thing, but basically ...it showed a guy picking up small ice blocks from a frozen over lake, and dropping the blocks on the ground. The blocks would crack open into several pieces of what looked like, ice pick shaped rods. It was one of the most beautiful, yet unusual things I've seen happen in nature. But, I can't seem to find any information on what that process was. The results keep turning up ''falling into a lake,'' and ''how to survive falling into a lake.'' Not sure how to describe this, but does anyone know what I'm talking about?
TL;DR:
What is the process called when ice blocks fall on the ground, and shatter into ice pick looking shapes?
Was it candle ice?
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/nzzBIrXUaqg
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Leigha
Jan 8, 2021 03:06 PM
(Jan 8, 2021 02:28 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: (Jan 7, 2021 09:22 PM)Leigha Wrote: Over the weekend, I watched a random video having to do with frozen ponds, lakes, etc. I couldn't tell you the title of the video, or how I stumbled upon it. Wasn't paying attention, at the time. I didn't view the entire thing, but basically ...it showed a guy picking up small ice blocks from a frozen over lake, and dropping the blocks on the ground. The blocks would crack open into several pieces of what looked like, ice pick shaped rods. It was one of the most beautiful, yet unusual things I've seen happen in nature. But, I can't seem to find any information on what that process was. The results keep turning up ''falling into a lake,'' and ''how to survive falling into a lake.'' Not sure how to describe this, but does anyone know what I'm talking about?
TL;DR:
What is the process called when ice blocks fall on the ground, and shatter into ice pick looking shapes?
Was it candle ice?
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/nzzBIrXUaqg
Yesss! This is it!! I’ll return later but just wanted to thank you!
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Leigha
Jan 8, 2021 08:47 PM
(This post was last modified: Jan 8, 2021 08:48 PM by Leigha.)
And this explains it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotten_ice
So ''clean'' ice is being replaced with decayed ice, which may be due to the problems associated with climate change. It feels wrong for finding it beautiful.
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Secular Sanity
Jan 9, 2021 01:06 PM
(Jan 8, 2021 08:47 PM)Leigha Wrote: And this explains it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotten_ice
So ''clean'' ice is being replaced with decayed ice, which may be due to the problems associated with climate change. It feels wrong for finding it beautiful.
No. Candling is a natural occurrence that’s we’ve always had, and yes, it’s beautiful.
"In the spring, when average daily air temperatures rise above the freezing point, ice begins to decay. Two processes are active during this period: a dimensional thinning and a deterioration of the ice crystal grains at their boundaries. Thinning of the ice layer is caused by heat transfer and by melting at the top or bottom surface (or both). Deterioration, sometimes called rotting or candling because of the similarity of deteriorating ice crystals to an assembly of closely packed candles, is caused by the absorption of solar radiation. When energy from the Sun warms the ice, melting begins at the grain boundaries because the melting point there is depressed by the presence of impurities that have been concentrated between crystal grains during the freezing process. Rotting may begin at the bottom or at the top, depending on the particular thermal conditions, but eventually the ice rots throughout its thickness. This greatly reduces the strength of the ice, so that rotten ice will support only a fraction of the load that solid, unrotted ice will support. Thinning and deterioration may occur simultaneously or independently of each other, so that sometimes ice thins without internal deterioration, and sometimes it deteriorates internally with little or no overall thinning. However, both processes usually occur before the ice cover finally breaks up."
https://www.britannica.com/science/lake-...-in-rivers
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Leigha
Jan 9, 2021 05:45 PM
Oh, I was reading about rotten ice from the link you posted. It sounds like a natural occurrence stemming from “rotten ice.” I’m awed by the beauty of it, nonetheless. : )
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