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C C
Dec 21, 2020 09:21 PM
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(Dec 21, 2020 08:43 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: I just mix it up. People understand. Put it down as the evolution of language. The only time I want the words spelled correctly is on legal parchment,otherwise I don't care. My wife who's of Dutch ancestry received her university graduation diploma with her surname spelled wrong. She kept it, she has a sense of humour( I did not type the U in that last word).
My one daughter when she was in Grade 5 or 6 , I can't remember exactly, was part of a gov't experiment. Her class and another one somewhere in Toronto were selected to learn the language phonetically. Whatever they wrote, as long as it was understood, was acceptable. The gov't ended the experiment after couple years but it left my daughter disadvantaged when it came to high school and university. Many a parent/teacher meeting night included me trying to explain to the educator why my daughter's spelling was bad. So when she went to university we decided that any papers she wrote would be sent to me for editing. I just made it legible, clear and concise for the marker/reader. Thank goodness for computers or I don't know if she'd have made it. When she graduated I bought her a "Hukt on Fonix werkt fer me" T-shirt. She has a great job and her spelling has improved over time.
Just be glad Mark Twain didn't get his way:
Quote:A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling
by Mark Twain
For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or
"s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would
be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform
"w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well
abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.
Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with
useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and
unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez
"c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh",
and "th" rispektivli.
Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius
xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.
What in the world does xrewawt spell?
Not going to wait for Clueless Husband (at Sciforums) to suddenly pop up here after disappearing for circa 5 years.
Oh, I missed the bit about c, y, x returning from toast status to replace ch, sh, th: " Finally, then, after some twenty years of orthographical reform, we would have a logical, coherent spelling in use throughout the English-speaking world."
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Zinjanthropos
Dec 21, 2020 09:49 PM
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(Dec 21, 2020 09:21 PM)C C Wrote: (Dec 21, 2020 08:43 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Just be glad Mark Twain didn't get his way:
Quote:A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling
by Mark Twain
For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or
"s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would
be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform
"w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well
abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.
Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with
useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and
unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez
"c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh",
and "th" rispektivli.
Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius
xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.
What in the world does xrewawt spell?
Not going to wait for Clueless Husband (at Sciforums) to suddenly pop up here after disappearing for circa 5 years.
Oh, I missed the bit about c, y, x returning from toast status to replace ch, sh, th: "Finally, then, after some twenty years of orthographical reform, we would have a logical, coherent spelling in use throughout the English-speaking world."
Nice going. I got orthographical so I should have got throughout, my bad. Played soccer with some Welsh guys for few years......Twain’s revisions remind me of that language.
Oh yeah...Clueless Husband one of my favourites.
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Leigha
Dec 24, 2020 06:04 AM
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A few nights ago, I went to dinner with friends and throughout the restaurant, there were framed recipes hanging on the walls. In reading through some of these recipes, it became apparent that the 'f's' found in various words, were in some cases, to be spoken as 's.' We soon asked the server to explain some of this. He shared that an 'f' in writing, was pronounced as 's' and over time, our grammar and spelling changed to match phonetically, how we speak today. I thought this was fascinating!
Here's an article to explain it further:
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/history-of-long-s/
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Leigha
Jan 8, 2021 08:03 PM
Today...''reservoir''
I tend to spell it as ''resevoir'' but I've committed to memory, now.
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Syne
Jan 11, 2021 08:06 AM
^^Man, and here I was thinking Ostro really lowered the bar on this forum.
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Secular Sanity
Jan 11, 2021 02:08 PM
(Jan 11, 2021 08:06 AM)Syne Wrote: ^^Man, and here I was thinking Ostro really lowered the bar on this forum.
No, it's the lack of empathy that lowered the bar.
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Secular Sanity
Jan 11, 2021 02:44 PM
(Jan 11, 2021 02:27 PM)Love Wrote: Okay.
I'm wrong. Am I right?
Yes, it would be right to admit when you’re wrong.
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Syne
Jan 11, 2021 05:10 PM
(Jan 11, 2021 02:08 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: (Jan 11, 2021 08:06 AM)Syne Wrote: ^^Man, and here I was thinking Ostro really lowered the bar on this forum.
No, it's the lack of empathy that lowered the bar.
So it's empathetic to enable nonsense and off-topic postings? Okay, have fun with you're new pet.
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Zinjanthropos
Jan 11, 2021 05:41 PM
(Jan 11, 2021 02:27 PM)Love Wrote: Okay.
I'm wrong. Am I right?
If you say you're wrong then I'll take your word. I understand it's one of those tricky little ambiguous philosophical questions. Not worth my time but who knows, I did spend a few seconds typing this sentence.
The more members the merrier. Love reminds me of the Beatnik days, a little before my time but I was a kid then. Yorkville, a part of Toronto was centre stage for that group. I think if we gave Love some bongo drums and let him recite poetry he'd fit right in. You're in the wrong era my friend.
Maybe we all have some specialty the other hasn't. I can't draw a lick but my daughter can produce beautiful art . Would I rather be stranded on a desert island with Love or Van Gogh instead of a survivalist? No way. No offence, just an image I've formed in my mind.
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C C
Jan 11, 2021 06:05 PM
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(Jan 11, 2021 02:27 PM)Love Wrote: I'm wrong. Am I right?
I'm a Kretan. All Kretans are liars.
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