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Hypocrisy of the virtue-signaling corporations: "We need that forced labor in China!"

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(corporate games) Coca-Cola, Nike Push Back On Legislation That Would Crack Down On Forced Labor In China
https://dailycaller.com/2020/11/29/coca-...bor-china/

INTRO: Major corporations Nike and Coca-Cola are reportedly pushing back on legislation that would crack down on forced labor in China. The New York Times reported Sunday that the two companies have joined several others in an effort to put pressure on Congress “to weaken a bill that would ban imported goods made with forced labor in China’s Xinjiang region.”

The Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act has bipartisan support in Congress and is designed to ban certain goods that are produced in China with the aid of forced labor, particularly at the expense of religious minorities like the Uyghur Muslims. Its passage would also force corporations to place their own supply chains under a proverbial microscope in order to ensure that they’re avoiding suppliers who utilized such labor sources... (MORE)
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Cynical Sindee: On one hand, there's nothing new about this. For instance, take Coca-Cola's famous "hilltop ad" from almost fifty years ago, that "Mad Men" ended with on its final episode, that catered to the New Left and hippie idealism. But back then there was pretentious pandering to everyone -- the taken for granted, exploitive nature of marketing in the impartial, universal sense.{*}

Today the commercialistic brown-nosing has narrowed down sharply to militant wokenomics, with an almost sneering, judgmental attitude toward the rest of the population, as if they're SocJus sinners. It's that level of exclusive, anal-retentive moral posturing ("Oh, look at us -- we're so pious with the agenda, our company is such a saint!") that highlights the slaughterhouse behind the clean, decorative facade of the Meat Store much more now than it did in 1971.

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{*} Excluding products specifically designed for a target group: kids, farmers, the elderly, feminine hygiene, etc.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
China says Uyghurs are Islamist terrorists. How do we know they’re not?
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Syne Offline
(Nov 30, 2020 04:01 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: China says Uyghurs are Islamist terrorists. How do we know they’re not?

Calling all members of a specific ethnic group terrorists is outright racist. We all know what concentration camps were last used for and forced sterilization is slow genocide.
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(Nov 30, 2020 04:41 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Nov 30, 2020 04:01 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: China says Uyghurs are Islamist terrorists. How do we know they’re not?

Calling all members of a specific ethnic group terrorists is outright racist. We all know what concentration camps were last used for and forced sterilization is slow genocide.

Not me who’s asking. Aussies trying to get a grip on it. Author asks the question but I think he agrees with you.

https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/...-minority/
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Nike is on the chopping block, but the NFL and other sports groups buy Nike products. Nike sponsors a lot of sporting events. Nike is a household name and probably believes that it's untouchable, like many corporations. 

Isn't Biden friends with China? It will be interesting if nothing changes (Nike gets their way) when he takes office. He'll be torn between appeasing China, and pandering to socialists on the left who voted for him.
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Yeah, Chine did want Biden to win. After all, they already made a bribery down payment with Hunter.

Wait, how is appeasing China and pandering to socialists at odds? I haven't heard a socialist say boo about China.
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(Nov 30, 2020 06:16 AM)Syne Wrote: Yeah, Chine did want Biden to win. After all, they already made a bribery down payment with Hunter.

Wait, how is appeasing China and pandering to socialists at odds? I haven't heard a socialist say boo about China.

By appeasing China in this scenario, Biden basically would be suggesting that we (Americans) all turn a blind eye to this ''form'' of capitalism. I think that would make those on the left very upset, especially those leaning towards socialism. How could they vote for someone who doesn't care if American corporations' supply chains are being operated and managed by foreign forced labor camps? This is of course taking into account, that they care.

The irony being that Democrats believe that they are the humanitarians, while Republicans are the greedy, evil capitalists. If Biden turns a blind eye to this, or wants us all to, what will his supporters think?

On another note, regardless of what the government does or doesn't do, as consumers - we have the freedom to boycott any product we wish, for any reason at all. I wonder why the US doesn't get involved (in a military way) with stopping these atrocities?
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(Nov 30, 2020 06:33 AM)Leigha Wrote: By appeasing China in this scenario, Biden basically would be suggesting that we (Americans) all turn a blind eye to this ''form'' of capitalism. I think that would make those on the left very upset, especially those leaning towards socialism. How could they vote for someone who doesn't care if American corporations' supply chains are being operated and managed by foreign forced labor camps? This is of course taking into account, that they care.

The irony being that Democrats believe that they are the humanitarians, while Republicans are the greedy, evil capitalists. If Biden turns a blind eye to this, or wants us all to, what will his supporters think?

On another note, regardless of what the government does or doesn't do, as consumers - we have the freedom to boycott any product we wish, for any reason at all. I wonder why the US doesn't get involved (in a military way) with stopping these atrocities?

Slave labor is not a form of capitalism. Those on the left have proven they don't care about anyone but themselves. Just look at how they appease Muslims, who treat women like property. How could they vote for someone whose VP believed he supported racists and believed women who accused him of sexual assault? How could they vote for someone who is obviously mentally incompetent? How could they vote for a "devout" Catholic who can't pronounce Psalms?

The ones who know don't care, and the ones who don't know can't be bothered to find out. Democrats lie about being humanitarians, as their personal charity giving can attest. Biden's supporters don't give a crap.

But if you're keen on boycotts, it ain't just Nike and Coke:
Apple is lobbying against a bill aimed at stopping forced labor in China


No one wants open war with China, as that could escalate into WWIII, with Iran and Russia likely allying with China. Much like Hitler in Germany, the international community doesn't usually resort to war unless neighboring countries are being invaded.
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(Nov 30, 2020 07:19 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Nov 30, 2020 06:33 AM)Leigha Wrote: By appeasing China in this scenario, Biden basically would be suggesting that we (Americans) all turn a blind eye to this ''form'' of capitalism. I think that would make those on the left very upset, especially those leaning towards socialism. How could they vote for someone who doesn't care if American corporations' supply chains are being operated and managed by foreign forced labor camps? This is of course taking into account, that they care.

The irony being that Democrats believe that they are the humanitarians, while Republicans are the greedy, evil capitalists. If Biden turns a blind eye to this, or wants us all to, what will his supporters think?

On another note, regardless of what the government does or doesn't do, as consumers - we have the freedom to boycott any product we wish, for any reason at all. I wonder why the US doesn't get involved (in a military way) with stopping these atrocities?

Slave labor is not a form of capitalism. Those on the left have proven they don't care about anyone but themselves. Just look at how they appease Muslims, who treat women like property. How could they vote for someone whose VP believed he supported racists and believed women who accused him of sexual assault? How could they vote for someone who is obviously mentally incompetent? How could they vote for a "devout" Catholic who can't pronounce Psalms?

The ones who know don't care, and the ones who don't know can't be bothered to find out. Democrats lie about being humanitarians, as their personal charity giving can attest. Biden's supporters don't give a crap.

But if you're keen on boycotts, it ain't just Nike and Coke:
Apple is lobbying against a bill aimed at stopping forced labor in China


No one wants open war with China, as that could escalate into WWIII, with Iran and Russia likely allying with China. Much like Hitler in Germany, the international community doesn't usually resort to war unless neighboring countries are being invaded.
Oh, my bad - I didn't mean to suggest that slave labor is a form of capitalism. My point with using quotes around ''form'', was to suggest that many socialists see capitalism (in general) as benefitting only the very wealthy, through exploiting others in the supply chain. They believe that the rich don't ''deserve'' their wealth, and gain their power through taking away the freedoms of their employees. The irony being that capitalism in theory, is designed to create freedom of thinking and choice, not restrict it. But, it's easier to have a knee-jerk reaction and make socialism seem like the remedy for a much deeper problem. 

To your point on war, yea...probably right.
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Syne Offline
(Nov 30, 2020 10:13 PM)Leigha Wrote: Oh, my bad - I didn't mean to suggest that slave labor is a form of capitalism. My point with using quotes around ''form'', was to suggest that many socialists see capitalism (in general) as benefitting only the very wealthy, through exploiting others in the supply chain. They believe that the rich don't ''deserve'' their wealth, and gain their power through taking away the freedoms of their employees. The irony being that capitalism in theory, is designed to create freedom of thinking and choice, not restrict it. But, it's easier to have a knee-jerk reaction and make socialism seem like the remedy for a much deeper problem. 

To your point on war, yea...probably right.

Don't worry. I saw the scare quotes and knew you didn't mean it literally. I just couldn't let it pass without comment.

In many other countries, the elite do get rich by taking advantage of people who literally have no other choice. Just not capitalist countries. Like many things from the left, they actually project what happens under socialism...because they have no clue what actual socialism is or does. They just think it's "nice".
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