Covid vaccine not proven to stop virus spread

[Leigha]

https://nypost.com/2020/11/24/moderna-bo...us-spread/

Research has shown that the biotech firm’s shot is effective at preventing people from getting sick with COVID-19, but there’s no hard evidence that it stops them from carrying the virus “transiently” and potentially infecting others who haven’t been vaccinated, according to Dr. Tal Zaks, Moderna’s chief medical officer.

Sooo...a vaccine won't stop the pandemic (yet). Baby steps, I guess. It would be safe to assume that wearing masks, and social distancing will be a constant, well into 2021. Rightfully so. Too many unknowns. 

[C C]

[...] It would be safe to assume that wearing masks, and social distancing will be a constant, well into 2021. Rightfully so. Too many unknowns. 

Perhaps to the very end of 2021. Unless the immunized community's careless behavior blatantly reveals ahead of and outside of the extended study conclusions that they are still capable of spreading it. To a remarkable yet not wholly surprising large number of anti-vaxxers.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/941388

[...] It may take a year or more to get the studies to answer the transmission question, said Larry Corey, MD, who helps oversee the vaccine trials as part of the National Institutes of Health's (NIH's) COVID-19 Prevention Network. With vaccination could come what researchers call "behavioral disinhibition" — they may start eating in restaurants, going to theaters, and sporting events without masks, he said.

That's not a good idea, said Corey, who is also president and director emeritus of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, Washington. Those who have been vaccinated could still continue to asymptomatically and unknowingly shed virus and spread disease. "I want people to start being aware of that," he said.

[...] NIH Director Francis Collins, MD, told health reporters at the AHCJ event that it will take 80% coverage to get to herd immunity, and that is not likely to happen until summer 2021, "if all goes well," he said, adding that it depends on Americans getting the vaccine.

"One of the greatest tragedies you can imagine in our technological society would be if the science says we can get there, and we have the doses, and a significant proportion of Americans turn them down, and then this epidemic goes on and on and on," he said. "I dearly hope that's not what we're looking at."
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https://www.scivillage.com/thread-9351-p...l#pid39518

[...] I have a sneaking suspicion when Biden takes office (and he likely will), suddenly Covid cases will be “decreasing”. The media will change the narrative and Biden will look like a savior. The fear mongering will come to an end.

Wait for it.

With the pandemic still dragging on for months yet, may indeed get to see a version of just that. Not so much the numbers decreasing when unaffected by season -- but journalists, celebrities, and academics choosing to heap praise on Biden despite those figures.

[Secular Sanity]

Sooo...a vaccine won't stop the pandemic (yet). Baby steps, I guess. It would be safe to assume that wearing masks, and social distancing will be a constant, well into 2021. Rightfully so. Too many unknowns.

That’s why global immunizations are so important. Smallpox is completely gone. We don’t even have to be vaccinated for it anymore, but we’ve had a vaccination for the measles since the early 60’s, and it’s still with us, and it’s making a resurgence fueled by misinformation.

Even if you weren’t shedding the coronavirus, it can still live on your hands for up to 9 hours and on other surfaces for up to 5 days or so.

"One of the greatest tragedies you can imagine in our technological society would be if the science says we can get there, and we have the doses, and a significant proportion of Americans turn them down, and then this epidemic goes on and on and on," he said. "I dearly hope that's not what we're looking at."

 
I think there’s going to be a lot skeptics. Unfortunately, trust is collapsing when we need it the most.

[Syne]

After an initial exposure, the reaction to Covid seems to be significantly diminished, even just looking at the much lower death rates in the latest infection spike. It will likely settle around that of the flu, without any vaccine at all. But like the flu, the vulnerable will still need a vaccine to go about normal daily life, people who get sick will stay home, and the asymptomatic will not have an infectious viral load.

[confused2]

I get the impression the vaccines produce a noticeable reaction. I fear there'll be enough people dropping dead by coincidence and/or with real or imaginary side effects to make this a hard product to sell.