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Election fraud

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#12
Zinjanthropos Offline
(Nov 10, 2020 02:47 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Nov 10, 2020 01:37 AM)Syne Wrote:

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/fGRzqdGycaY

Damn, boy, do your homework.

Experts explain videos showing election workers filling out ballots.

“Elections officials said an election worker filling out a ballot is a part of a legal process called duplication, where a worker fixes a damaged or defective ballot so the machine can read it.”

SS....How in hell is mind reading a legal process? Although it may appear a voter’s intent it is not certain. Throw the spoiled ballot out and remove doubt.
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Secular Sanity Offline
(Nov 10, 2020 03:11 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
(Nov 10, 2020 02:47 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Nov 10, 2020 01:37 AM)Syne Wrote:

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/fGRzqdGycaYThe 

Damn, boy, do your homework.

Experts explain videos showing election workers filling out ballots.

“Elections officials said an election worker filling out a ballot is a part of a legal process called duplication, where a worker fixes a damaged or defective ballot so the machine can read it.”

SS....How in hell is mind reading a legal process? Although it may appear a voter’s intent it is not certain. Throw the spoiled ballot out and remove doubt.

The election laws are different in every state but I'm pretty sure that theirs is similar to California's.

15210. In preparing the voted ballots for processing, any ballot that is torn, bent, or otherwise defective shall be corrected so that every vote cast by the voter shall be counted by the automatic tabulating equipment. If necessary, a true duplicate copy of the defective ballot shall be made and substituted therefor, following the intention of the voter insofar as it can be ascertained from the defective ballot. All duplicate ballots shall be clearly labeled "duplicate," and shall bear a serial number that shall be recorded on the damaged or defective ballot.
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Syne Offline
(Nov 10, 2020 02:47 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Nov 10, 2020 01:37 AM)Syne Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGRzqdGycaY

Damn, boy, do your homework.

Experts explain videos showing election workers filling out ballots.

“Elections officials said an election worker filling out a ballot is a part of a legal process called duplication, where a worker fixes a damaged or defective ballot so the machine can read it.”

So you're telling me that one woman is reading off a damaged ballot (presuming it's plenty legible for no doubt) and the other is filling in what the first is reading off? Okay, I accept that.

So who's the guy watching? Presumably an election watcher, right? Why's there only one? And I'll give you one guess which party he represents.


Even your article claims “We had in this election observers who came in from the parties and observed,”.
"This" (singular) "election observers" (plural) "from the parties" (plural), but only one guy watching. And:

“Somebody will fill in an oval and go ‘Oh my gosh! That’s not who I wanted to vote for.’ So they’ll cross it out, they’ll fill in another oval, they’ll put an arrow to the one that says this is the one I want, and they’ll actually initial it sometimes. But the machine is reading that as an overvote, so it won’t go through. So we have to duplicate that ballot with the voter’s intent, so it can be counted then properly,”


If it won't go through the machine, on the spot, you destroy the bad ballot and give them a new one to fill out. You don't sit on it until others can guess their intent later.
But maybe the voter placing it in the tabulator is another thing Dem states don't do, so they have the chance to "fix" them later. In my state, my ballot goes directly from my hands into the tabulator, and the screen tells me if it was accepted or had errors.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
(Nov 10, 2020 04:13 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Nov 10, 2020 03:11 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
(Nov 10, 2020 02:47 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Nov 10, 2020 01:37 AM)Syne Wrote:

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/fGRzqdGycaYThe 

Damn, boy, do your homework.

Experts explain videos showing election workers filling out ballots.

“Elections officials said an election worker filling out a ballot is a part of a legal process called duplication, where a worker fixes a damaged or defective ballot so the machine can read it.”

SS....How in hell is mind reading a legal process? Although it may appear a voter’s intent it is not certain. Throw the spoiled ballot out and remove doubt.

The election laws are different in every state but I'm pretty sure that theirs is similar to California's.

15210. In preparing the voted ballots for processing, any ballot that is torn, bent, or otherwise defective shall be corrected so that every vote cast by the voter shall be counted by the automatic tabulating equipment. If necessary, a true duplicate copy of the defective ballot shall be made and substituted therefor, following the intention of the voter insofar as it can be ascertained from the defective ballot. All duplicate ballots shall be clearly labeled "duplicate," and shall bear a serial number that shall be recorded on the damaged or defective ballot.

I can understand a physically damaged ballot but one where ‘someone’ has written all over it.....no way should it be counted. You’re asking some low paid or volunteer worker to make sense out of voter confusion and indecision.
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Leigha Offline
My concern when it comes to properly investigating if there was election fraud is without recounting ALL of the mail in ballots from the battleground states, how can fraud be proven? Unless evidence was caught on camera or something, how can they obtain evidence? I keep reading ''Trump continues with probe into election fraud, despite no evidence.'' If Trump's team isn't allowed a complete recount, how would we ever know if there was fraud? Read an article earlier that Biden only won by like 276,000 votes in these states under investigation.

Things that make you go hmm.
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C C Offline
(Nov 10, 2020 02:19 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Getting interesting....

https://globalnews.ca/news/7452776/bill-...sults/amp/

But an anticipated percentage of occurrences in response to _X_, like Jim Bridenstine resigning from NASA.

Outlets of the Establishment seem to have "absolutely no voter fraud" plastered everywhere with almost dogmatic emphasis. (Certainly no deep and pervading preference displayed there over the past year by that impartial mediator of information. <sarcasm>)

Predictably as well, only the anti-Establishment outlets feature specific instances of and general claims of tampering.

https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2020/...-election/

https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/06/a-2nd...-to-nov-3/

https://twitter.com/APhilosophae/status/...2428163072
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#19
Zinjanthropos Offline
Is there a better way to conduct a democratic election? This latest one seems whacky. Is it this way as to not offend people or just let's confuse the hell out of them?
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#20
Leigha Offline
Using automation to improve different parts of the process is the only way, in my opinion. Less reliance on direct human contact with the ballots, the better. The fact that some states are still counting “new” ballots shows that we need greater efficiency in this process. And sticking to a hard deadline for when ballots need to be postmarked. These should’ve been postmarked back in mid-October to assure they’d be counted on Election Day.
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