Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

California is legalizing pedophilia

#21
Syne Offline
(Oct 9, 2020 08:38 AM)Ben the Donkey Wrote: California has liberal laws regarding homosexuality, generally speaking. The age of consent is equal for male and female (gay or otherwise), homosexual acts are legal in the eyes of Californian law, and therefore subject to the same anti-discriminatory action as normy sex is.

Under that context, your moral stance on the subject is irrelevant.

Again, just because California law goes easy on a 24 year old having vaginal sex with a 14 year old, that doesn't make extending that to gay sex acts a good thing, regardless of the justification (which is explicitly about gay sex with minors). That 10 year age difference for any kind of sex with a minor is disgusting for any reasonably sane adult with any moral sense at all. But I presume you're fine with it.
Reply
#22
Ben the Donkey Offline
Whether or not I'm fine with it doesn't have anything to do with what I said.
That you're completely out of step with the discussion, does.
Reply
#23
Syne Offline
Can't be out of step with a discussion I started. But I can understand why you'd be reticent to divulge whether you're cool with sex with minors. Don't want to leave a digital paper trail.
Reply
#24
Ben the Donkey Offline
Yes, you can. And you are.

As for the last bit... wow. New lows.
Why not go the Full Monty, Syne? Level the accusation.
Reply
#25
C C Offline
(Oct 9, 2020 05:09 PM)Ben the Donkey Wrote: Do you think the darker or seedier side of sexuality should impact the age of consent, though, ladies? [...]


When that's a significant part of the very reason for lowering the age of consent, or maintaining an already established custom (from older times). I've come across accounts of poor farmers in Southeast Asia prostituting their daughters or allowing them to do so for paid consensual sex long before the materialist and technological temptations of the current era arose in terms of affordability (which is what the stuff below is historically limited to as reasons and causes). OTOH, there's not that many places that have it legally down to the age of twelve. The authorities just look the other way when there are violations connected to sex work, and below a local, minimum of age of fourteen -- due to the regional economic benefits from serving military bases, tourists, etc with prostitution and underage sex.

- - - -

Thais Selling Daughters Into Prostitution: Asia: Practice is common among the poor(1994): ...Now when girls finish sixth grade, the last mandatory grade in Thailand, teachers go out to try to persuade parents not to sell them into prostitution--at age 11. Authorities send monks into the mountains of the north, where the practice is most common, to counsel parents it is wrong to sell their own flesh and blood.

But Chakrapand Wongburanavart, dean of the faculty of social sciences at Chiang Mai University in northern Thailand, said the once isolated villagers are increasingly sacrificing their daughters to pay for the luxuries of the modern world. “This is the shortest way to upgrade their social status,” he said. “It’s fashionable.”

Acha’s granddaughters helped pay for the family’s new ceramic tile roof with the $1,200 they have sent home since the pair was sold for the equivalent of $200 seven years ago at ages 15 and 16. That is a huge sum to impoverished farmers in one-room shacks, forced for years to live on what they grew. Now, Acha said, 10 other girls in the village of about a dozen families are working as prostitutes.

The Women Who Sold Their Daughters(2013): ...Like other local mothers CNN spoke to, she blames poverty for her decision to sell her daughter, saying a financial crisis drove her into the clutches of the traffickers who make their livelihoods preying on Cambodian children.
Reply
#26
Syne Offline
(Oct 9, 2020 06:01 PM)Ben the Donkey Wrote: As for the last bit... wow. New lows.
Why not go the Full Monty, Syne? Level the accusation.
Would be very easy to deny. And I'd even believe you.
Reply
#27
Magical Realist Offline
There are strict laws against pedophilia in the US and across the world. Strict laws with stiff penalties. The acceptance of gay people otoh is also widespread and has been so for several decades now. If the acceptance of gay people leads to the acceptance of pedophilia why aren't we seeing this all over the world? It's not happening and shows no sign of happening, not even in California. Hence your ridiculous claim is clearly false. There is no slippery slope of gay acceptance into pedophilia acceptance. Pedophilia remains as much a crime as it always has been while gays continue to gain more and more acceptance with every decade.
Reply
#28
Syne Offline
(Oct 10, 2020 02:06 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: There are strict laws against pedophilia in the US and across the world. Strict laws with stiff penalties. The acceptance of gay people otoh is also widespread and has been so for several decades now. If the acceptance of gay people leads to the acceptance of pedophilia why aren't we seeing this all over the world? It's not happening and shows no sign of happening, not even in California. Hence your ridiculous claim is clearly false. There is no slippery slope of gay acceptance into pedophilia acceptance. Pedophilia remains as much a crime as it always has been while gays continue to gain more and more acceptance with every decade.

Yeah, I'll bet you know all about "stiff penalties" for pedophilia. 6~6

You seem to have completely missed the point, that decreased penalties for gay sex acts with minors would not occur without acceptance of gay sex acts. The former doesn't happen without the latter. Very simple logic, as verified by the very arguments LGBT activists used to advocate the law change.
Reply
#29
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:that decreased penalties for gay sex acts with minors would not occur without acceptance of gay sex acts

Gay sex has been legal for a long time now, but we don't see any corresponding legalization of sex with minors. Why is that if one causes the other?
Reply
#30
Syne Offline
(Oct 10, 2020 02:22 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:that decreased penalties for gay sex acts with minors would not occur without acceptance of gay sex acts

Gay sex has been legal for a long time now, but we don't see any corresponding legalization of sex with minors. Why is that if one causes the other?

Uh, we just did see decreased penalties, in California. And you seem ignorant of the difference between necessary and sufficient causes. Acceptance of gay sex is a necessary cause for decreasing the penalties for gay sex with a minor. That means that the former must exist for the latter to occur...which should be clear just by the simple English. A sufficient cause would mean one would immediately cause the other, which obviously no one is arguing.
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  The crackdown on speaking out against pedophilia? (Survival Lilly) C C 1 109 Sep 17, 2023 02:08 PM
Last Post: Zinjanthropos



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)