Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Information Immortality

#1
C C Offline
http://blog.talkingphilosophy.com/?p=8521

EXCERPT: Most people are familiar with the notion that energy cannot be destroyed. Interestingly, there is also a rule in quantum mechanics that forbids the destruction of information [...] often illustrated by the example of burning a book: though the book is burned, the information still remain--although it would obviously be much harder to “read” a burned book. [..] My interest here is [...] with [...] the question of whether or not the indestructibility of information has any implications for immortality.

[...] While there are many problems with the memory account of personal identity, it certainly suggests a path to quantum immortality through the conservation of information. One approach would be to argue that since information is conserved, the person is conserved even after the death and dissolution of the body. Just like the burned book whose information still exists, the person’s information would still exist.

One obvious reply to this is that a person is an active being and not just a collection of information. To use a rather rough analogy, a person could be seen as being like a computer program—to be is to be running. Or, to use a more artistic analogy, like a play: while the script would persist after the final curtain, the play itself is over. As such, while the person’s information would be conserved, the person would cease to be. This sort of “quantum immortality” is remarkably similar to Spinoza’s view of immortality. While he denied personal immortality, he claimed that “the human mind cannot be absolutely destroyed with the body, but something of it remains which is eternal.” Spinoza, of course, seemed to believe that this should comfort people. Perhaps some comfort should be taken in the fact that one’s information will be conserved [...]

However, people would probably be more comforted by a reason to believe in an afterlife. Fortunately, the conservation of information does provide at least a shot at an afterlife. If information is conserved and all there is to a person can be conserved as information, then a person could presumably be reconstructed after his death....
Reply
#2
Magical Realist Offline
Ofcourse if information is indestructible, then that means the information of all you experienced in your life, all the events and feelings and thoughts and memories, would somehow be conserved as well. So it isn't to me just a matter of the information of one's material body and brain. It's your whole life, as a rich information-dense matrix of events, that subsists outside of spacetime, which suggests the persistence of all that gave rise to the person you became from the moment of conception till your death. I think it will be seen in the afterlife that the soul is made up of events and stories, not so much atoms and electrons.
Reply
#3
Yazata Online
Quote:EXCERPT: Most people are familiar with the notion that energy cannot be destroyed. Interestingly, there is also a rule in quantum mechanics that forbids the destruction of information

'Quantum mechanics'. I get skeptical whenever I hear those two words together in a sentence and start to suspect that I'm being bull-shitted. It seems like QM can be citied to justify any outlandish speculation imaginable, so that to laypeople like me, it basically translates as 'anything goes, the more counterintuitive the better'.

I'd really like to see a plausible account that I'm capable of understanding for why this conservation of of information principle is supposedly true, what it encompasses and what limitations might be associated with it.

Until I know those things, I can't really comment on what it might mean for personal immortality, beyond saying that I suspect that it doesn't mean anything.
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Please see religious forums.com for further information Ostronomos 3 131 Jan 28, 2021 07:24 PM
Last Post: Syne
  Language and Information Magical Realist 2 867 Jun 13, 2015 07:10 PM
Last Post: Magical Realist



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)