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Leigha
Jan 21, 2019 02:52 PM
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https://www.fastcompany.com/90287311/why...m=webfeeds
Interesting article, but personally, I don't believe in asking for raises. If the company you work for can't see the value that you bring each day, and you know that you rise above and beyond the call of duty most of the time (no one is perfect), then it might be time to look for a new employer. Of course this is if in fact, you are exceeding expectations. I realize that many people are deluded, and think they're working hard but they're not. We know the difference here, right?
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Syne
Jan 21, 2019 05:42 PM
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In my experience, employers either have an annual evaluation, they're small/family-run and fairly attentive, or they're pretty inattentive to employee pay. I've even worked for at least one, with a yearly evaluation, that the best rating you could get in any category was "doing alright". Their evaluation form didn't even have an option, nor even write-in space, for exceptional or beyond the call of duty. You still got raises, but nothing to distinguish you from lesser motivated coworkers.
I wouldn't have received many raises from the inattentive employers without asking, or even threatening to leave. One memorable one dragged it's feet hiring me on full-time, and I had to bring it to their attention, and I had to threaten to leave for both the raises I got there. If you're willing to walk away, you might as well ask, as you have the strongest bargaining position...with the employer usually aware of the cost of hiring/training new people.
But I've also had small or family-run businesses that gave raises before I even thought of asking. So there's a variety, and one strategy isn't best for all. Asking the attentive employer may seem ungrateful or entitled, but failing to ask the inattentive employer is just leaving money on the table. And walking away can sometime be the only option, as with the evaluations that don't allow you to distinguish yourself (although a flawless attendance record can be meaningful).
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Leigha
Jan 21, 2019 09:47 PM
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(Jan 21, 2019 05:42 PM)Syne Wrote: In my experience, employers either have an annual evaluation, they're small/family-run and fairly attentive, or they're pretty inattentive to employee pay. I've even worked for at least one, with a yearly evaluation, that the best rating you could get in any category was "doing alright". Their evaluation form didn't even have an option, nor even write-in space, for exceptional or beyond the call of duty. You still got raises, but nothing to distinguish you from lesser motivated coworkers.
I wouldn't have received many raises from the inattentive employers without asking, or even threatening to leave. One memorable one dragged it's feet hiring me on full-time, and I had to bring it to their attention, and I had to threaten to leave for both the raises I got there. If you're willing to walk away, you might as well ask, as you have the strongest bargaining position...with the employer usually aware of the cost of hiring/training new people.
But I've also had small or family-run businesses that gave raises before I even thought of asking. So there's a variety, and one strategy isn't best for all. Asking the attentive employer may seem ungrateful or entitled, but failing to ask the inattentive employer is just leaving money on the table. And walking away can sometime be the only option, as with the evaluations that don't allow you to distinguish yourself (although a flawless attendance record can be meaningful).
Agree with this. I think that there are a number of reasons why employers fail to give raises to employees. Some could simply be that they aren't profiting well, and a decision has been made that no one is receiving a raise. Some could be that there are inattentive managers who simply don't see the worth of their team. And others do see the worth, but don't wish to ''blow up someone's head'' with a raise. Of course, one could be deluded enough to think he/she deserves a raise, and most certainly, does not. But, if the first three could be in the realm of possibilities, I say...keep steppin.'
Coffee or not, I will not ask for a raise. I will not do it here or there. I will not ask for a raise anywhere. (If Dr Seuss wrote a self help book for employees)
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