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Loneliness is bad for brains (community isolation)

#21
Magical Realist Offline
(Nov 9, 2018 07:23 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Nov 9, 2018 08:13 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Social isolation is spending "very little time with friends and family, or at social events". Electronic communication cannot provide everything real life contact does.

Sure it can. Periodic phone calls and facebook time provides daily contact with people practically instantaneously and even in the case of an emergency. And like you just realized, there's those life alerts. So your whole concept of being socially isolated needs a 2018 upgrade. As if 911 doesn't know to respond to a caller who is speaking gibberish. Welcome to our new technologically connected society. Physical isolation is not the deathbringer it used to be.

No it can't. And it's sad that it's been so long for you that you no longer remember the difference.

I'm glad you feel like you have all medical contingencies covered, but I'd still advise a medical alert for the unforeseen. Calling and face-timing people do not cover all the benefits of actually being around people. People having heart-attacks are often too incapacitated to find a potentially life-saving aspirin, people having strokes quickly lose consciousness and can suffer from aphasia, and people present are always closer than emergency responders (even with a medical alert). All these add up to better odds of surviving a medical emergency.

You really shouldn't worry so much. It's not good for your health. I'm not about to have someone move in with me just so they can call 911 should I get aphasia from a stroke. And if I can activate a medical alert, I can surely dial 911. Regardless, I don't live my life in such negative terms. If I die I die. So what? People die everyday. I'm not going to worry about it. In my mind death is but the next stage of my soul journey...
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#22
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I once had this annoying mobile phone that would automatically call 911 whenever it got jostled a certain way. That was one preemptive effort in software design and emergency orientation that I was actually glad to see become passé with the next phone.

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#23
Syne Offline
(Nov 9, 2018 07:48 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Nov 9, 2018 07:23 PM)Syne Wrote: I'm glad you feel like you have all medical contingencies covered, but I'd still advise a medical alert for the unforeseen. Calling and face-timing people do not cover all the benefits of actually being around people. People having heart-attacks are often too incapacitated to find a potentially life-saving aspirin, people having strokes quickly lose consciousness and can suffer from aphasia, and people present are always closer than emergency responders (even with a medical alert). All these add up to better odds of surviving a medical emergency.

You really shouldn't worry so much. It's not good for your health. I'm not about to have someone move in with me just so they can call 911 should I get aphasia from a stroke. And if I can activate a medical alert, I can surely dial 911. Regardless, I don't live my life in such negative terms.

I'm only concerned with people I know in real life. As usual, I'm just promoting intellectual honesty. No, aphasia can keep you from understanding a phone keypad, which is why a single button is safer. And who said anything about having someone move in with you? It only requires spending some "time with friends and family, or at social events", not full time.

Quote:If I die I die. So what? People die everyday. I'm not going to worry about it. In my mind death is but the next stage of my soul journey...

Hey, I'm just responding to your overly-defensive justification. If you don't care, I really don't understand all the push-back.
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#24
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Quote:It only requires spending some "time with friends and family, or at social events", not full time.

LOL! No..I'm not going to spend time with people just so they can call 911 if I get aphasia from a stroke. That's ridiculous.

Quote:Hey, I'm just responding to your overly-defensive justification.

No you're not. You're making a big deal about getting aphasia from a stroke when you live alone. It's kind of sick. You need to just live your life and accept that other people aren't as obsessed with dying as you are. It doesn't mean they're defensive. It just means they aren't negative fearful people like you are. Keep your mentally ill anxieties to yourself.
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#25
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(Nov 10, 2018 03:50 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:It only requires spending some "time with friends and family, or at social events", not full time.

LOL! No..I'm not going to spend time with people just so they can call 911 if I get aphasia from a stroke. That's ridiculous.
Again, there are other reasons to hang out with people. Maybe you should at least refresh your memory.
Real people aren't as scary as you may imagine.

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Quote:Hey, I'm just responding to your overly-defensive justification.

No you're not. You're making a big deal about getting aphasia from a stroke when you live alone. It's kind of sick. You need to just live your life and accept that other people aren't as obsessed with dying as you are. It doesn't mean they're defensive.

No obsession here, little buddy. Just puzzling over why you're arguing so much about something you claim you don't care about. Why try so desperately hard to convince others that there's no risk to lacking human contact? Why not just accept it? If you're not worried about death, how does that study's results threaten you in any way? O_o
Quote:It just means they aren't negative fearful people like you are. Keep your mentally ill anxieties to yourself.
Now you're just projecting. Rolleyes

But you can easily prove me wrong. Just go find some real life human contact.
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#26
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Quote:Real people aren't as scary as you may imagine

That's why I socialize with real people in discussion groups and facebook. No fears here.

Quote:Why not just accept it?

I literally just told you I don't worry about my dying. If it happens it happens. So what? What about this aren't you getting?

Quote:But you can easily prove me wrong. Just go find some real life human contact.

Like I said, I'm doin just fine. I suggest you see a therapist for this new obsession you have about dying alone. That in itself might lead to an early death.
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#27
Syne Offline
(Nov 10, 2018 07:20 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Real people aren't as scary as you may imagine

That's why I socialize with real people in discussion groups and facebook. No fears here.
In person...it's not scary.
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Quote:Why not just accept it?

I literally just told you I don't worry about my dying. If it happens it happens. So what? What about this aren't you getting?
Exactly. Then why are you arguing? O_o
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Quote:But you can easily prove me wrong. Just go find some real life human contact.

Like I said, I'm doin just fine. I suggest you see a therapist for this new obsession you have about dying alone. That in itself might lead to an early death.
You're projecting again. I'll believe you're doing fine when you conquer your fears of hanging out with people in person.

Seriously, your avoidance of real people is starting to sound pathological.
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#28
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Quote:I'll believe you're doing fine when you conquer your fears of hanging out with people in person.

Believe me, proving anything to you isn't even a blip on my radar. So I'll just keep living like I choose to live. In the meantime, why don't you conquer your own fears, starting with this new one you have of dying alone?
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#29
Syne Offline
(Nov 10, 2018 08:07 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:I'll believe you're doing fine when you conquer your fears of hanging out with people in person.

Believe me, proving anything to you isn't even a blip on my radar. So I'll just keep living like I choose to live. In the meantime, why don't you conquer your own fears, starting with this new one you have of dying alone?

IOW, you can't...the fear is too great. I'm telling you, it's never as bad as people imagine. Quit watching the news for a bit. Find some positive, uplifting true stories to buoy your view of others. Do a little exposure therapy. Baby steps, little buddy. Baby steps.

I have no idea why anyone who lives a socially isolated life would try to encourage others to be less socially isolated. It's actually people who argue the effects of and make excuses for social isolation, like you've done, who show any sign of being concerned about dying alone. Stop projecting already. It's far too obvious. But hey, maybe you're wanting to elicit pity from others. As well as social isolation, that's another way to ensure people can't hurt you. In essence saying, "I'm not a threat...see, I can hardly even leave my house or be around real people".
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#30
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Don't worry Syne. Death is coming for all of us. Think of it as one the last remaining things about yourself that's still human.
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