Arguments for god from a former atheist

[Secular Sanity]

Apparently you can't differentiate theology from philosophy.

In case you didn’t notice, the ball was kicked out of bounds eons ago.

Game over!

[Ostronomos]

Because I have actually seen that vast all-encompassing consciousness.

And then—and then things start to get really scary.

Were you with Syne?  Were guys smoking, snorting, or drinking anything?

Universal intelligence is not to be taken lightly. I can give a vague description and say that the universe is profoundly complex - as complex as a human brain. And then proceed to argue that this brain is very capable of thought as a disembodied consciousness. Your dismissal of the reality of God places you at a serious disadvantage. There is illusion and there is reality and I am closer to understanding reality than you are because I know that it is inclusive of God. My equation demonstrates this.

[Syne]

Apparently you can't differentiate theology from philosophy.

In case you didn’t notice, the ball was kicked out of bounds eons ago.

Game over!

Do you have anything intelligent to say? O_o
Nope, just more of this verbal diarrhea, huh?

[Secular Sanity]

You’re in a metaphysical realm. I can’t touch that.

But don’t think for a minute that you’re above Ostronomos.

[Syne]

You’re in a metaphysical realm. I can’t touch that.

But don’t think for a minute that you’re above Ostronomos.

What, you're incapable of using logic and reason to question things like reality, truth, and the underlying basis for every opinion/belief you have?
Like I said, avoiding cognitive dissonance.

Delusion is not "above" anyone. Yours, that you believe you have a handle on things you refuse to delve any deeper into, and his, that he believes he understands something (likely drug-induced) he cannot even properly define.

[Yazata]

Reality as in 'all' is something that we’ll never fully grasp. This is an area where uncertainty cannot be removed with further analysis and experimentation.

I'm inclined to agree.

Actually, I'm rather skeptical that reality has any ultimate, final secret, something that explains everything else and needs no explanation itself.

[Secular Sanity]

What, you're incapable of using logic and reason to question things like reality, truth, and the underlying basis for every opinion/belief you have?
Like I said, avoiding cognitive dissonance.

Delusion is not "above" anyone. Yours, that you believe you have a handle on things you refuse to delve any deeper into, and his, that he believes he understands something (likely drug-induced) he cannot even properly define.

Well then, let's start with some of Aquinas' basics. Acts and attributes. Let's take a look at some of yours.

I'm willing to do the work. You, not so much. You're lazy, resort to ad hominems, YouTube videos, and pop-shit.

You make everyone else do the work.

[Yazata]

I haven't watched the video, since it apparently goes on for an hour.

As Feser says, if the ultimate basis for reality is not only unknown but also unknowable, not because of the limitations of our knowledge but because it is without intelligible cause/reason, then any argument in that vein is equally unintelligible, as that argument denies that the very reason used to assert it has any fundamental basis in reality. It's a self-defeating argument.

What "argument in that vein"? Feser is evidently arguing against some view that he disagrees with, but I don't know what.

[Syne]

Reality as in 'all' is something that we’ll never fully grasp. This is an area where uncertainty cannot be removed with further analysis and experimentation.

I'm inclined to agree.

Actually, I'm rather skeptical that reality has any ultimate, final secret, something that explains everything else and needs no explanation itself.

Again, no one said that any ultimate cause would, or even could, encompass explaining everything (nor that it would, itself, have no explanation). It only provides a solid epistemology for more mundane claims. If reality is fundamentally inscrutable, then the intelligibility of everything else is suspect.

What, you're incapable of using logic and reason to question things like reality, truth, and the underlying basis for every opinion/belief you have?
Like I said, avoiding cognitive dissonance.

Delusion is not "above" anyone. Yours, that you believe you have a handle on things you refuse to delve any deeper into, and his, that he believes he understands something (likely drug-induced) he cannot even properly define.

Well then, let's start with some of Aquinas' basics. Acts and attributes. Let's take a look at some of yours.

I'm willing to do the work. You, not so much. You're lazy, resort to ad hominems, YouTube videos, and pop-shit.

You make everyone else do the work.

Wow, just so much projection.
You claiming to be willing to do the work doesn't mean much until you actually do, and looks much more like just an excuse for your own lazy ad hominems.

I haven't watched the video, since it apparently goes on for an hour.

As Feser says, if the ultimate basis for reality is not only unknown but also unknowable, not because of the limitations of our knowledge but because it is without intelligible cause/reason, then any argument in that vein is equally unintelligible, as that argument denies that the very reason used to assert it has any fundamental basis in reality. It's a self-defeating argument.

What "argument in that vein"? Feser is evidently arguing against some view that he disagrees with, but I don't know what.

Any argument that purports to be better than any other. On what basis?
Of course you don't know what he's arguing if you refuse to hear him out.

[Secular Sanity]

What "argument in that vein"? Feser is evidently arguing against some view that he disagrees with, but I don't know what.

He said he was an atheist but now he believes that the arguments presented in classical theism are correct. He's selling a book.

I’m sure that Yazata is well aware of classical theism, Syne. The guy is just revisiting classical theism and discussing the the five ways.

Do you want me to do all your work for you, Syne?  Go on, lazy ass. There's tons and tons of material on this subject. Spit it out or get off the podium.