Fearmongering ad by the NRA

**Syne** · Mar 6, 2018 01:39 AM

No, you just don't understand the political spectrum.

**Leigha** · Mar 9, 2018 05:59 PM

I'm rather neutral on the gun issue, but believe that we should have the right to ''bear arms,'' and those rights should be respected. But, I have to say, the more I read about the NRA, and listen to NRA supporters on the news, they seem extremely paranoid, in general. There are exceptions I know, but there seem to be those in that organization who are radical in how they view gun ownership, and a little obtuse.

**Syne** · Mar 9, 2018 08:53 PM

Without specific examples, I think they just know their history. It is replete with the consequences of allowing a people to be disarmed.

**Magical Realist** · Mar 9, 2018 11:26 PM

(Mar 9, 2018 08:53 PM)Syne Wrote: Without specific examples, I think they just know their history. It is replete with the consequences of allowing a people to be disarmed.

Give us some examples if they truly exist.

**Syne** · Mar 10, 2018 02:45 AM

1911...Turkey disarms citizens....shortly after 1.5 million Armenians are murdered.
1929...Russia disarms citizens....over the next 24 years....20 million Russians are murdered.
1935....China disarms citizens....between 1948 and 1952....20 million Chinese are murdered.
1938....German disarms citizens....over the next seven years....16 million Jews are murdered.
1956....Cambodia disarms its citzens....1975-1977.....1 million educated people were murdered.
1964.....Guatemala disarms its citizens.....then goes on to murder 100,000 Mayans.
1970....Uganda disarms its citizens....over the next decade....300,000 christians are murdered.
- http://warriortimes.com/2011/04/24/what-...-citizens/

**Magical Realist** · (This post was last modified: Mar 10, 2018 03:11 AM by Magical Realist.)

LOL! Great..revisionist history from a gun nut website. That settles it.

https://www.armedwithreason.com/militia-...ead-to-it/

**Leigha** · (This post was last modified: Mar 10, 2018 03:33 AM by Leigha.)

I don't think that there's anything wrong with owning a gun, but many NRA activists seem to think that a person should be entitled to a basement of artillery, because you know...dooms day is coming. It's that type of mindset that is troubling.

Then, there's Japan, where there's virtually no private gun ownership permitted. Very low crime. Not to say people can't obtain guns illegally, but it makes me wonder if this ''gun mentality'' creates violence, rather than stops it. Sort of like if you own a hammer, everything looks like a nail. If you're obsessed with guns, maybe you start becoming paranoid, that your life is in imminent danger. You start perceiving everyone as a threat. I think about George Zimmerman, and would he have been so brazen as to follow a teenager and provoke an altercation, if he didn't have a gun? Not all gun owners, but many seem to see danger where there simply isn't.

I don't own a gun, and I don't live my life steeped in worry and paranoia.

Again, if you wish to own a gun, that's your right, and you're entitled to that right. But, the NRA folks cling to their guns as if their lives depend on them. That's weird, to me.

**Syne** · Mar 10, 2018 03:32 AM

(Mar 10, 2018 03:06 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: LOL! Great..revisionist history from a gun nut website. That settles it.

https://www.armedwithreason.com/militia-...ead-to-it/

Wow, talk about paranoia.

A tyrannical government could only arise in the US with a majority of the population supporting it due to some economic or military crisis: in reaction, say, to a heavily armed minority attempting to enforce its will on the rest of the country.

"Vietnam, Afghanistan, Cuba, Somalia, Iraq, and southern Lebanon" prove that "militias have been successful in warding off foreign aggression". These groups have held back the US military with small arms, belying "the notion that small groups of armed Jews could have succeeded where the entire Polish and French armies failed is completely inane". Do any of those rank anywhere near the genocide of those disarmed countries? It's also more than a little dishonest to compare countries that never had significant democratic freedom.

Tyrannies can only arise in free countries when the majority agrees to disarm a significant portion and only then does the government turn on those same people.

Learn some history. Not your leftist revisionist crap.

**Magical Realist** · (This post was last modified: Mar 10, 2018 03:41 AM by Magical Realist.)

Quote:Again, if you wish to own a gun, that's your right, and you're entitled to that right. But, the NRA folks cling to their guns as if their lives depend on them. That's weird, to me.

It IS weird. It's also weird for an American to live in fear that his own elected democratic govt is going to come and imprison him someday just for the hell of it. There's a big difference between tyrranies and democracies. Apparently all these fear-ridden gun nuts were asleep during that part of their high school history class.

**Leigha** · (This post was last modified: Mar 10, 2018 04:07 AM by Leigha.)

(Mar 10, 2018 03:37 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Again, if you wish to own a gun, that's your right, and you're entitled to that right. But, the NRA folks cling to their guns as if their lives depend on them. That's weird, to me.

It IS weird. It's also weird for an American to live in fear that his own elected democratic govt is going to come and imprison him someday just for the hell of it. There's a big difference between tyrranies and democracies. Apparently fear-ridden gun nuts were asleep during that part of their history class.

True

I was watching a few NRA supporters on a news show the other day, and they just look angry, paranoid, and worried. No one is taking the right to bear arms away, not sure what all the alarm is about. The other strange thing about people obsessed with guns, is they also cling to the Bible, too. Hmmm, don't know how they reconcile the two schools of thought. lol

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florid...spartanntp

Like why is the NRA upset over the gun age being bumped to 21 years old? No one is disallowing private gun ownership, but it's very telling that the NRA is getting upset over some of the issues mentioned in the article. These laws will protect the general public, or at least put some additional safeguards in place, where people with mental health issues can't gain access to guns, easily or legally. Why would the NRA be upset about this? They just want everyone to be allowed to own a gun? That is just irresponsible. There are many responsible people who own guns, but they should be on board with laws that keep guns out of the wrong hands.