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The Pentagon's Newest UFO Research Program

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Yazata Offline
It's called the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program.

Created by former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nevada). It apparently lasted from 2009 when it first got appropriations, to around 2012. According to the New York Times, some $22 million was spent on it.  

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/...eid-216111

Reid is apparently friends with Robert Bigelow, who convinced Reid and several other Senators that pilots had been reporting sightings of air vehicles with performance far in excess of anything the US could achieve. There was concern that Russia, China or somebody unknown had some game changing new technology.

So Reid sneakily inserted some funding into some defense appropriations bills to start a secret inquiry.

The Pentagon just acknowledged its existence on Friday.
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Syne Offline
So Reid was the senile dupe we thought.
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#3
Yazata Offline
The New York Times online version has a UFO report that MR will love. (Unfortunately it's behind a paywall.) It will be in the Dec 17, 2017 print edition on page A22.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/po...-navy.html

Two experienced US Navy pilots were flying F-18 fighters in 2004  on a training mission about 100 miles west of San Diego. An operations officer from a Navy cruiser, the USS Princeton, radioed the pilots to ask if their jets were armed. (They weren't.) "Well, we've got a real world vector for you" the cruiser said.

The backstory is that for about two weeks prior to this, Navy radar had been seeing radar contacts dropping suddenly from above 80,000 feet, stopping at 20,000 feet where they hovered. Then they either disappeared or ascended vertically the way they had come.

Now it was happening again while two jets were close by. So the two jets were dispatched to the point where the cruiser said their radar had the unidentified contact located. When they got there, neither pilot saw anything.... at first.

Then one of the pilots looked down at the sea. He saw a very large object just below the surface. The ocean was behaving strangely around it, churning and boiling. And directly above the object agitating the water was a flying object, a white oval about 40 feet across.

One of the pilots began a circling descent to get a closer look while the other stood watch above. As the descending jet began spiraling down the white oval rose as if it meant to meet him halfway. At that point the pilot stopped circling and flew straight towards the object.

The white oval then flew away with an acceleration and velocity that no known aircraft could match. (The Times story doesn't say what the larger object in the water did.)

The two jet pilots talked to the operations guy on the cruiser who directed them to fly to a 'cap point' (apparently this is a reference point on their onboard navigational computer display) about 60 miles away. A minute later, the cruiser informed them "...you won't believe it, but that thing is at your cap point!" (60 miles/minute x 60 minutes/hour = 3,600 mph). When the two jets got there, the contact was gone.

No wings, rotors or exhaust plumes were seen associated with the white oval. It just flew, very fast.

The two jets returned to the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz and landed safely. Their squadron had heard about it and made lots of jokes about little green men. The pilots never heard anything more about it, but apparently the report of the incident ended up in Washington and drew some attention.

There seem to be a number of similar reports that can't just be sneeringly dismissed with assertions that anyone who takes reports like these seriously is "intellectually dishonest"! Reports of sightings have been associated with military bases, nuclear power plants and sensitive sites like that which aroused concern.

I'm inclined to think that there's a real possibility (obviously not a certainty) that something interesting is happening in the skies (and maybe under the seas as well). If there is, I don't have a clue what it might be. But the possibility shouldn't just be ignored out of stubborn closed-mindedness.
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Syne Offline
Just waiting for more evidence than witness statements.


Looks like Bigelow's company got the bulk of that funding, and he was a contributor to Reid. Smells like nepotism.
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Yazata Offline
(Dec 17, 2017 02:19 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: List of water-related ufo sightings:

http://www.waterufo.net/2012/search.php?txtSearch=all

I think that it's fascinating.

I remember first hearing about anomalous underwater phenomena reading Charles Fort back in the 1960's.

Those big glowing wheels in tropical seas caught my attention.

As if something in the center was rotating, while emitting rays of some sort that cause plankton to phosphoresce.

http://www.waterufo.net/underwlights.php
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RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Dec 16, 2017 07:23 PM)Yazata Wrote: It's called the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program.

Created by former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nevada). It apparently lasted from 2009 when it first got appropriations, to around 2012. According to the New York Times, some $22 million was spent on it.  

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/...eid-216111

Reid is apparently friends with Robert Bigelow, who convinced Reid and several other Senators that pilots had been reporting sightings of air vehicles with performance far in excess of anything the US could achieve. There was concern that Russia, China or somebody unknown had some game changing new technology.

So Reid sneakily inserted some funding into some defense appropriations bills to start a secret inquiry.

The Pentagon just acknowledged its existence on Friday.

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The average for an advanced degree was $72,824, with men averaging $90,761 and women averaging $50,756 annually.
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Quote:What is considered a good salary in the US?
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And since this is household income that often comes from 2 salaries.
66 percent of US wage earners made less than or equal to $41,211.36.
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4 average waged employees for 11 years supporting familys (putting kids throgh college)(supporting the local economy and businessess)and helping the money-go-round just like the federal reserve does when it prints more money
(coal face trickle down).

dollar for dollar thats probably a far better efficiency than funding food stamps, slum-lords & paying for medicaid for people who cant afford to go to the doctor so get horribly sick then cost 10 times more.

though these type of things are generaly used as political ammunition for some extremists radical political ideologist(looking to line their own pocket) while they secretly fund some TV evangelist tax dodger or such like hypocrisy.
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#10
Magical Realist Offline
Tyson is just parroting the standard gripe of every other ufo denialist---no proof the ufo is of alien origin, therefore the ufo doesn't exist. How can a man obviously curious about the wonders of the universe take the position of not studying these things we have thousands of accounts of and video of and photos of? He says we SHOULD be studying these things, and then acts indifferent about what they are. They are just unknown OBJECTS he claims, variables without definition. Problem is the ufo has to be a real knowable thing. It's on video. The pilot said one of them looked like a 40 ft tic tac. That's not just anything. It's a specific something that has typical characteristics seen thousands of times over the past 70 years and which has tremendous implications for our species. Go back to studying outer space Neil, at least until you've cracked a book or two on the very earthbound and hugely evidenced ufo phenomenon.
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