"It similarly thought statements about being homosexual or a gay black woman were also negative
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Being a dog? Neutral. Being homosexual? Negative"
Google’s Sentiment Analyzer Thinks Being Gay Is Bad |
Google’s Sentiment Analyzer Thinks Being Gay Is Bad
"It similarly thought statements about being homosexual or a gay black woman were also negative ... Being a dog? Neutral. Being homosexual? Negative" (Nov 23, 2017 03:08 AM)Syne Wrote: Google’s Sentiment Analyzer Thinks Being Gay Is Bad analising Gayness with your Google ... Syne, you are quite the rouge adventurer. Google does not track short term age range linguistic trends openly. im sure it does secretly but they probably do not want the public to realise how creepy they are toward their teenage children. the term "gay" is about 8 to 9 years old and originated in 12 to 14 year old school children. the term is used as a counter prejorative to the meaning of "good" or "happy". unfortunately leaders and educators did not pick it up fast enough as they would a word like nigger or faggot or muslim or christian or jew etc etc ... teenagers often use subversive counter culture linguistics as a form of peer bonding recognition of individuation from parental authority groups. obviousely i need to be careful here i do not start giving predators tips etc so i wont get any more technical. suffice to say the word "Gay" has been in use by children to mean bad for some years. google has been grooming linguistic trends from children to sell to marketing companys. thats what they do. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p...0please%20 Quote:Top Definition interesting that the term "Nigger" used to mean close friend or buddy is not listed. used like the term "mate" or "comrad" or "collegue" yet that use has been around for well over 20 years. urban dictionary though with an obvious typo for some reason lists its most common acceptable use with differtent spelling but no pronunciation Quote:Top definition minority group tracking for market sensitivity monitoring... homosexual african american women.... potentially the target of the most prejudice or the most under represented group in social media. technical data = 10% thus homosexual african american women should be atleast around 5 to 7 % but there is very very little representation. though one of the most cutting edge TV series of modern social culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_L_Word Quote:[...] Google declined to clarify how its API was trained, but the process generally works like this: A machine learning algorithm takes a corpus of text data labeled with positive and negative values, like movie or restaurant reviews [...] Just as many others would be reluctant to clarify. [...] But as the algorithms learn and adapt from their original coding, they become more opaque and less predictable. It can soon become difficult to understand exactly how the complex interaction of algorithms generated a problematic result. And, even if we could, private companies are disinclined to reveal the commercially sensitive inner workings of their algorithms (as was the case with Northpointe). (Rise of the racist robots – how AI is learning all our worst impulses) - - -Quote:The term "gay" is about 8 to 9 years old and originated in 12 to 14 year old school children. Uh no... "The word may have started to acquire associations of immorality as early as the 14th century, but had certainly acquired them by the 17th.[1] By the late 17th century it had acquired the specific meaning of "addicted to pleasures and dissipations",[9] an extension of its primary meaning of "carefree" implying "uninhibited by moral constraints". A gay woman was a prostitute, a gay man a womanizer, and a gay house a brothel.[1] The use of gay to mean "homosexual" was often an extension of its application to prostitution: a gay boy was a young man or boy serving male clients.[10] Similarly, a gay cat was a young male apprenticed to an older hobo, commonly exchanging sex and other services for protection and tutelage.[1] The application to homosexuality was also an extension of the word's sexualized connotation of "carefree and uninhibited", which implied a willingness to disregard conventional or respectable sexual mores. Such usage, documented as early as the 1920s, was likely present before the 20th century,"-----https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay (Nov 23, 2017 04:33 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote:(Nov 23, 2017 03:08 AM)Syne Wrote: Google’s Sentiment Analyzer Thinks Being Gay Is Bad Is there an award for the most racial slurs in one post? Freudian slip? (Nov 23, 2017 06:35 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:Quote:The term "gay" is about 8 to 9 years old and originated in 12 to 14 year old school children. LoL i should have added the words "modern internet tracked usage for trending & tracking purposes" RE google. (Nov 23, 2017 06:17 AM)C C Wrote:Quote:[...] Google declined to clarify how its API was trained, but the process generally works like this: A machine learning algorithm takes a corpus of text data labeled with positive and negative values, like movie or restaurant reviews [...] indeed. the vast majority of internet chat trackable would be the likes of facebook where tweens & teens have donated Meta Data via inter related personal chat.. potentiating the AI premise of assumed importance to a trending social narative.
https://cloud.google.com/natural-language/
Quote:Cloud Natural Language API Quote:Insights from your customers google search results Bad Gay = About 128,000,000 results (0.44 seconds) Good Gay = About 258,000,000 results (0.41 seconds) Gay is Good = About 30,800,000 results (0.45 seconds) Gay is Bad = About 83,100,000 results (0.45 seconds) soo i want to be fair when it comes to statistics because you cant be scientific unles you follow certain basic principals. now the question stands requiring to be answered. Whom is publishing the bulk of the material on to the internet saying homosexuality is bad ? https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/10/25...gay-is-bad Quote:Re:See below (Score:2)Excellent point whom ever posted that comment in game chat ? in game chat of 12 to 18 year old boys trying to prove they are manly ? calling each other gay... it was quite a thing for some years. so you have 12 to 18 year old boys calling other boys game in game chat while playing FPS games to try and gaslight an opposing player. you have fringe church groups producing mass media on to the internet declaring homosexuality as bad and so the computer assigns their hate speach mine kumpf like booklets to be attributable to the same word "gay". now all we need google to do is strip the content from those contexts that quote bible and the pendulum will swing wildly back to a more centred point of social morality.
I don't understand what the complaint is in the OP. That AI's aren't all politically correct? They say things that human beings aren't permitted to say, even if many of the humans are thinking exactly those things?
Well, wasn't that the intention here? Isn't this thing supposed to be a sentiment analyzer? I'm not sure what that means, but apparently it tries to give people some idea of how various words and phrases are likely to be perceived by others, positively or negatively. Well, that isn't always going to be as our social justice warriors desire. What good is a sentiment analyzer that doesn't tell the truth? I think that all it's saying is that it might be best for gays not to volunteer that they are gay indiscriminately in all social situations. And I'd bet that most gays already know that. Presumably they learned it in high school where being known as being gay can get kids shunned and abused by the other kids. What any of this has to do with potential dangers of AI remains mysterious.
The way that the OP quoted piece suggests the Sentiment analyser outputs is that Negative/Positive is actually "True or False". Is the sentiment likely true (positive being a higher likelihood) or negative (it being a lower likelihood)
So when it puts a statement like someone stating they are homosexual it's taking into consideration where statements that have been made are false, that high level of false output then makes it's value negative since it believes there is a lower likelihood of someone admitting they are homosexual. The neutrality of saying someone is a dog however is probably due to a limit of characters on the keywords, It would of been interesting to check nouns like cat, bat, rat, cow, doe, roo etc. The default I would guess for values not considered would be neutral. (Nov 23, 2017 05:53 PM)Yazata Wrote: I don't understand what the complaint is in the OP. That AI's aren't all politically correct? They say things that human beings aren't permitted to say, even if many of the humans are thinking exactly those things? Yeah, I'm not sure how they expect AI to learn in an organic manner without similar social influences to aid semantic significance. Quote:What any of this has to do with potential dangers of AI remains mysterious. Not really. After all, this might be coming from the same sort of people who think hurtful words are tantamount to actual violence. AI discrimination would be the robot uprising to them. |
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