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(CTE) Aaron Hernandez NFL Player

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RainbowUnicorn Offline
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/09/health...ttommedium

Do the NFL not have enough money to pay for its players to get brain scans ?

Quote:The 32 NFL teams are worth as much as every MLB and NBA team combined. Follow Business Insider: The average NFL franchise is now valued at $2.3 billion according the latest valuations released by Forbes.com, a 22% increase over a year ago and a 64% from 2014.Sep 15, 2016
32 x 2.3 billion = $73,600,000,000.00

ok so they seem to have a bit of money...


Quote:The price depends on where you live, the negotiating power of the provider who administers the scan and your insurance provider. According to New Choice Health, the national average cost of a brain CT scan is [b]$1,200.Jan 27, 2015[/b]
How much does a CT scan cost? - Bernard Health
www.bernardhealth.com/woofstreetjournal/bid/201916/How-much-does-a-CT-scan-cost

Science has won(yay for science thankfully the family allowed independant science to do their thing).
the murder victims, their familys & the hernandez family have lost(obviousely).

it is interesting watching the video clip of the service station footage.

 he throws something out of the car on to the ground,
https://youtu.be/eJEI2U5HqRM?t=12
he then gets out, then his passenger tells him to pick it up
so he picks it up. puts it in his right hand side pants pocket, then takes it back out & hands it to the rear passenger through the car window.

goes to fill up the car with gas but has not opened the gas tank fuel cap

grabs himself by the genitals & then acts out a sexual act to his friends in the back seat of the car.
https://youtu.be/eJEI2U5HqRM?t=39


he then starts to fill the car up, then lights up another cigarette while he is filling the car up
https://youtu.be/eJEI2U5HqRM?t=93

he then walks into the gas station while smoking a cigarette, buys items while carrying a lit cigarette
walks out finishes his cigarette by throwing it still lit on to the ground by the car front right wheel.
https://youtu.be/eJEI2U5HqRM?t=167
https://youtu.be/eJEI2U5HqRM?t=187

then he goes to sexually assault this customer(male in the high visibility vest) in the middle of the forcourt before his friend stops him & pulls him back to the car.
https://youtu.be/eJEI2U5HqRM?t=191
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C C Offline
(Nov 14, 2017 01:10 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: Do the NFL not have enough money to pay for its players to get brain scans ?


A CTE diagnosis is only possible after death. What the most advanced scanning tech detected in 40 percent of retired and still living NFL players (as reported months ago) was signs of traumatic brain injury. The latter is only inferred as a potential precursor to CTE (and other neurological degenerative disease) in some individuals. For confirmation, they need brains of the deceased to directly examine.

The concern for detecting evidence of brain injury in young or active football players -- and that finally meaning something in terms of early intervention and prevention -- will increase as the fine print in contracts change to better facilitate litigation.

Ultimately the game may "deteriorate" into a powderpuff-like version of the sport (flag or touch football). Billions in profit will dive sharply to thousands. Or it may be cheaper to just keep paying those future lawsuits (as with another industry delaying recall of defective automobiles) and thereby maintain the brutal aspects of the game.

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RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Nov 14, 2017 07:12 AM)C C Wrote:
(Nov 14, 2017 01:10 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: Do the NFL not have enough money to pay for its players to get brain scans ?


A CTE diagnosis is only possible after death. What the most advanced scanning tech detected in 40 percent of retired and still living NFL players (as reported months ago) was signs of traumatic brain injury. The latter is only inferred as a potential precursor to CTE (and other neurological degenerative disease) in some individuals. For confirmation, they need brains of the deceased to directly examine.

The concern for detecting evidence of brain injury in young or active football players -- and that finally meaning something in terms of early intervention and prevention -- will increase as the fine print in contracts change to better facilitate litigation.

Ultimately the game may "deteriorate" into a powderpuff-like version of the sport (flag or touch football). Billions in profit will dive sharply to thousands. Or it may be cheaper to just keep paying those future lawsuits (as with another industry delaying recall of defective automobiles) and thereby maintain the brutal aspects of the game.

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while i am no neurosurgeon, or NFL rule officianado, or bookmaker...
i should think the easy first step is to make a change in the rules making directed head contact out of the game basic rules.
the wearing of effective crash helmets encourages head striking.
and... considering how much each profesional player is being paid and there for making money for the companys...
yearly PET CAT & EM radiant receptor analysis for normative pattern individualisation...
resulting in a basic health set of brain data which can be compared on a general fitness year to year basis.
should the player undergo a head accident as many will always do, they can simply include a check up to check for irregular pattern shift that would suggest incongruous activity signalling a change in basic patterns.
this would simply allow for hemispheric and mood testing via blood& basic response tests.
as domonstrated the break down in the corpus collosum would show the player to have marked deteriation in hemispheric processing and signs of early brain fatigue on testing.

just a thought. seems quite easy with current technology and would inevitably save tens of millions in law suites and medical bills.


what i was curious to see was if there is some type of war-like/battle-like mentality where players percieve themselves as expendable to get the most money as fast as possible.
thus a more long term goal setting for personal health and financial balance may well morph the game into something even better than it is now...
imagine a masters league with players being able to play NFL masters at age 50 to 60 and have no real danager of injury.

as always it is those who oppose change and seek to hold on to resist change that tend to potentiate the negative information and false data sets to suggest such a longer term approach would be worse for the players or the game.

what groups, fans & players included consider NFL players like soldiers whom are expendible for short term wins ? surely the contacts do not reflect that?(maybe they do, maybe they need to balance out the contracts for longer periods instead of larger amounts with free health care with regular doctors check ups as part of the contract.
if there is one thing i have been told over and over by medical profesionals and that is they want "charting over time" to use to get a picture of the patients health to better comprehend normal concepts to better treat the patient.
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Yazata Offline
(Nov 14, 2017 07:12 AM)C C Wrote: Ultimately the game may "deteriorate" into a powderpuff-like version of the sport (flag or touch football).

Especially at the high-school and college levels. Real honest-to-God full-contact football might conceivably be doomed at the prep levels. Too many activists shrieking hysterically against it and too much vulnerability to lawsuits.

Quote:Billions in profit will dive sharply to thousands. Or it may be cheaper to just keep paying those future lawsuits (as with another industry delaying recall of defective automobiles) and thereby maintain the brutal aspects of the game.

Or just include disclaimers in professional players' collective bargaining agreements and in individual player contracts where they acknowledge and assume the risks and absolve their employers of legal liability.

That's one reason why pro players make millions of dollars a year, I guess. Tens of millions if they are stars. They only need play a year or so in the pros and then never have to work again. But they like being celebrities, they like the big-bucks, the women who hang all over them and the life-style. So they stay in it longer than they probably should.
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RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Nov 14, 2017 03:12 PM)Yazata Wrote:
(Nov 14, 2017 07:12 AM)C C Wrote: Ultimately the game may "deteriorate" into a powderpuff-like version of the sport (flag or touch football).

Especially at the high-school and college levels. Real honest-to-God full-contact football might conceivably be doomed at the prep levels. Too many activists shrieking hysterically against it and too much vulnerability to lawsuits.

Quote:Billions in profit will dive sharply to thousands. Or it may be cheaper to just keep paying those future lawsuits (as with another industry delaying recall of defective automobiles) and thereby maintain the brutal aspects of the game.

Or just include disclaimers in professional players' collective bargaining agreements and in individual player contracts where they acknowledge and assume the risks and absolve their employers of legal liability.

That's one reason why pro players make millions of dollars a year, I guess. Tens of millions if they are stars. They only need play a year or so in the pros and then never have to work again. But they like being celebrities, they like the big-bucks, the women who hang all over them and the life-style. So they stay in it longer than they probably should.

Quote:But they like being celebrities, they like the big-bucks, the women who hang all over them and the life-style. So they stay in it longer than they probably should.
Additionally, the US capitalist social culture is to keep making as much money as possible while enabling the richest return, regardles if enabling results in enabling behaviour & a culture that destroys people.
e.g sub prime mortgages, health insurance pre existing conditions & exclusions, hyper sexualisation of sports(& other male controlled industrys) people feeding the predatory side of the male psyche.

The Society endorses the big money & all the life style & culture they choose to create with it.
Be it Evengalical christianity denying women equal rights & exploiting children for child marriage & domestic servitude
or
Celebrity psychopathic enabling creating & supporting a culture that effectively almost does the same while pointing at all the money suggesting it is an excuse for following the worste possible example of culture.

The Society need to Choose to change their culture if they wish it to change.
The litigious nature of playing the victim while enabling the denegration of women as a cultural normative seems to be prevailent in both examples which seems to breed a mysoginistic slave-master psychopathy.
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C C Offline
(Nov 14, 2017 08:13 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: while i am no neurosurgeon, or NFL rule officianado, or bookmaker... i should think the easy first step is to make a change in the rules making directed head contact out of the game basic rules.

They have rules and penalties in place for the kinds of tackles that can cause injuries and penalties for them. It decreases the number, but they still contingently happen.

Quote:the wearing of effective crash helmets encourages head striking.

The game originally had no helmets and little protective equipment other than light padding (probably far less than what rugby features today). But there were so many injuries (and supposedly some grisly ones) that helmets and heavier equipment eventually became mandatory. But because the players kept increasing in size and speed over the decades, the force of the impacts can still penetrate.

Seems like deliberately or flagrantly striking a a quarterback's head or other player carries a severe penalty that can include the offender being removed from the game and being fined by the league. Accidental / unintentional incidents are confined to a yardage penalty for the player's team. The referees can have difficulty distinguishing the two, though.

Quote:what groups, fans & players included consider NFL players like soldiers whom are expendible for short term wins ?

Individual players can do stupid things in the course of emotional intensity, but coaches / owners deliberately sacrificing players to injury is unheard of because of the very character and limitations of the sport. In terms of winning a game at all (especially having a winning season) professional gridiron football (and the college level) is extremely sensitive to the loss of key players and experienced ones that have been practicing / playing together for months / years.

Because of the game's overly specialized roles and their necessary skill-sets (quarterback, running back, receiver, defensive end, cornerback, etc) and each head coach sporting their own preferred and often complex system, a group of players can't be cobbled together into a team in a matter of weeks (much less days) like basketball and soccer and have any chance of winning. Also in mediocre franchises and programs there can be a significant gulf between the talent of starters and the talent of back-up and replacement players (though usually less so in professional football than college level).

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(Nov 14, 2017 03:12 PM)Yazata Wrote:
(Nov 14, 2017 07:12 AM)C C Wrote: Ultimately the game may "deteriorate" into a powderpuff-like version of the sport (flag or touch football).

Especially at the high-school and college levels. Real honest-to-God full-contact football might conceivably be doomed at the prep levels. Too many activists shrieking hysterically against it and too much vulnerability to lawsuits.


And just fewer North American kids taking up any type of football at all because of concerned parents may be the most severe threat to that sport industry. The NFL might have to set-up even more makeshift programs and training camps for basics in other countries where gridiron football isn't natively well-known. To engender an international pool of players to import from. The same level of experience won't be there but they'll at least find natural talent to mold (and arguably exploit if those recruits happen to come from 3rd-world poorhouse / desperation).

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Zinjanthropos Offline
Soccer players will fall to ground even if its only the wind from a nearby flying elbow they feel. Why not helmets for them? OK, OK, I know the answer.  

American football is the only team sport I know where there are two specific teams, offence and defence, neither of which actually get to share the field at the same time participating as teammates. My question is this: are the defences bigger and stronger than the offences they face? If so then injuries are inevitable and head shots would have more lethal consequences I assume. My solution ....reduce the team populations, same guys play offence and defence. That's how its done when a bunch of neighborhood guys play recreational football in a schoolyard or park. But that will never happen.
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