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The Orville: Majority Rule

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C C Offline
Trailer or promo (probably temporary):
https://youtu.be/dGzr_7q_l_I

Complete episode (#7, 1st season), temporary, Yahoo View:
https://view.yahoo.com/show/the-orville/...ority-rule

Internationally, if blocked, search your local equivalent of "Yahoo View" or whatever vendor you'd usually visit to legally watch recent episodes of programming from _X_ country.

Generic SOAPBOX: Hooda thot that Seth MacFarlane's "The Orville" would turn out to be more than just a silly parody of Star Trek? This episode was downright scary in its reflection of where our own society could as much be headed with the aid of a tweak or two.

Should you for whatever reason miss traditional priggish mores and the religious version of "sacredness" -- don't worry, political society and its media have stepped in to fill the void with its own idols and pious etiquette born from hyper-sensitivity, grievance standards, and cultural appropriation. Inventing or endorsing new acts for the public to be easily offended by. Celebrities and other public figures are arguably already subject to that radio and tv talk-show circuit apology tour whenever they make an egregious blunder.

The social networking apparatus lays the groundwork for offenses to go viral and engender penalties / consequences. As well as undermining a desire for legitimate corroboration of outrageous claims circulated around. And is there a growing hostility to democracy via mediating representatives, or at least grave disappointment in the latter? Maybe that safeguard for "protecting us from ourselves" will erode away to grant us direct voting and the arbitrary or unstable whims and "joys" of mob rule.  

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One reviewer's evaluation and recap [language warning]. Link could be unreliable at times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBs8iZFS0T0

EXCERPT: My very enthusiastic review and recap for Episode 7 of Seth MacFarlane's 'The Orville'....

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Magical Realist Online
Who could've missed the little up or down button badges people punch on each other's chests. It's the whole Facebook "liking" obsession, only in real life. The last scene of the episode was telling---she's about to dislike something on her TV screen, and instead just turns it off. The freedom to disengage---Bartleby the scrivener's omnipotent power of the individual to simply refuse to go along with.
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(Oct 27, 2017 10:19 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Who could've missed the little up or down button badges people punch on each other's chests. It's the whole Facebook "liking" obsession, only in real life. The last scene of the episode was telling---she's about to dislike something on her TV screen, and instead just turns it off. The freedom to disengage---Bartleby the scrivener's omnipotent power of the individual to simply refuse to go along with.


Yah, at least generic puritanism (spanning all potential secular, religious, tradition, etc origins) implies being regulated by doctrine or predictable perimeters so that one can anticipate the assessment or valuation from the crowd as the result of _X_ behavior, speech, writing, act, rumor. But faddish or trendy mobs can swing unreliably all sorts of ways in what they like or dislike -- or a multitude of different ideological views vying for attention and influence in the voting process could output results that are equivalent to capricious.

Social media seem to be empowering victims (sexual abuse, etc) with respect to connecting them together, revealing the existence of each other, and integrating them as active groups. On one hand those changes being brought about are good. But as with any frontier it opens new routes for personal manipulative opportunism, for organizing mass criminal activity, for circulation of ideological deceptions; and serves as platform and trigger for witch-hunt explosions which introduce and sculpt tyrannical micro-management of society without need of the latter to even be implemented by despotic government policies and censorship.

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stryder Offline
(Oct 29, 2017 05:52 PM)C C Wrote:
(Oct 27, 2017 10:19 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Who could've missed the little up or down button badges people punch on each other's chests. It's the whole Facebook "liking" obsession, only in real life. The last scene of the episode was telling---she's about to dislike something on her TV screen, and instead just turns it off. The freedom to disengage---Bartleby the scrivener's omnipotent power of the individual to simply refuse to go along with.


Yah, at least generic puritanism (spanning all potential secular, religious, tradition, etc origins) implies being regulated by doctrine or predictable perimeters so that one can anticipate the assessment or valuation from the crowd as the result of _X_ behavior, speech, writing, act, rumor. But faddish or trendy mobs can swing unreliably all sorts of ways in what they like or dislike -- or a multitude of different ideological views vying for attention and influence in the voting process could output results that are equivalent to capricious.

Social media seem to be empowering victims (sexual abuse, etc) with respect to connecting them together, revealing the existence of each other, and integrating them as active groups. On one hand those changes being brought about are good. But as with any frontier it opens new routes for personal manipulative opportunism, for organizing mass criminal activity, for circulation of ideological deceptions; and serves as platform and trigger for witch-hunt explosions which introduce and sculpt tyrannical micro-management of society without need of the latter to even be implemented by despotic government policies and censorship.

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Funnily enough Forums Moderation has been it's own Petri dish in regards to just that. On the one-hand there's the envisioned utopia, methodology being applied where everything is balanced through arbitration, where all views can be heard or met with an equal opposite force... a level playing field. However rarely can such an envisionment be sustained, at some point someone will introduce themselves a victim while another the overt abusive protagonist, both of which equally want you as moderator to moderate the other. No longer does it become a straight forwards arbitration as soon the moderator is span as the badguy not fullfill the role for one or other of the loudest voices. At this point it's usually where moderation in forums fails, as the moderator is human, they will likely cave in based upon their own assumptions of the problem or presentation of how to best handle it.

I suppose it even pushes on the Flight, Fight or do nothing response mechanism, do we run away and hide, Fight off those that attempt to subvert the role or just do nothing and see what happens.

I have and will be extremely lapse with moderation in this forum for that reason, it means it's on the both posters as the protagonist or victim to maintain their position as unfortunately it's the only fair way to balance their views, since they are indeed "their" views.

So I apologise if you don't see me delete a post that you've reported on another member, or scold someone, as the role here is to keep the ship from sinking not decimate (wikipedia.org) the crew.
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Secular Sanity Offline
(Oct 30, 2017 09:33 PM)stryder Wrote: So I apologise if you don't see me delete a post that you've reported on another member, or scold someone, as the role here is to keep the ship from sinking not decimate (wikipedia.org) the crew.

Perfect. That’s what I’ve been touting.

Thanks, Stryder!

http://www.thescienceforum.com/announcem...post609467

I know you have a Facebook account, but what are some of the other avenues that we can use to get a hold of you if the site starts acting funny?
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