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Your data suggest a moderate automatic preference for Dark Skinned People over Light Skinned People.
I don't think this was a reasonable test. Possibly the way my monitor is set up but I didn't see any actual people with dark (black) skin so I don't think the test actually answered the question which is of interest to either me or people with actual dark (black) skin.
(Oct 22, 2017 02:20 AM)confused2 Wrote: I don't think this was a reasonable test. Possibly the way my monitor is set up but I didn't see any actual people with dark (black) skin so I don't think the test actually answered the question which is of interest to either me or people with actual dark (black) skin.
That's not possible, as the test will only give results for enough correct answers. So you'd have to be claiming that you did that on luck alone. Dark doesn't only mean black.
I took the US President implicit bias test and showed no bias between JFK and Trump. I'd be interested in any results others get on any of these tests.
Appearance-wise, looks or sounds similar to 30 minute to one hour and longer tests that I occasionally get from a research outlet that conducts national surveys to collect data for government, company, and educational institute interests. (Bias is just one of the multitude of subject matters they probe.) When I come out somewhere in the middle to even smelling like roses to a Social Utopian Ministry, it doesn't mean diddly-squat to me.
As I doubt that the responses people give on "paper" are really going to wholly reflect how they behave, react, or think in the actual moments of everyday life circumstances. Religious hypocrisy has illustrated that for centuries, but similar applies to other ideological / cultural-tradition domains. Even if an evaluation is indirect or stealthy in its inquiries, there's still a degree of subconscious apprehension of that and potential consequent filtering through either a person's idealized view of themselves or how they regard themselves as regulated by whatever thought orientations they publicly endorse.
It's not clear that the sloppy or "media-standard" bike theft experiment below was conducted in the usual stomping grounds of a US television network (NYC, LA, etc). But cost-consciously they're not going to stray far from the local populations when unnecessary. It may also be almost "profiling" in its own right to assume that Lyn's and Alex's views (the Amazing Race couple) would be more in an SJW direction than Steve Bannon's or whoever. But they're just tentative illustrations of how -- in real world activity -- people can contingently go against their own grain as either openly professed or inferred from answers given in a test. ("We're not prejudiced like those red-necks in flyover country!" or "Being gay, we know what it's like to be stereotyped.")
One young woman gave Kelly the benefit of the doubt, she said, because of his race. "I remember thinking, 'Young, white men don't usually carry burglary tools,'" said Bisa Washington, an African-American woman." [...] A final twist involved an attractive blond actress, who took up the bolt cutters to obviously steal the bike. "Need a hand with that?" asks another biker, who then proceeds to help her lift the bike.
In The Amazing Race 7, the gay white team of Lyn and Alex sort of got lost and had to travel through a bad neighborhood of Johannesburg(?).
Blog account of the episode: "Lynn & Alex have taken a detour of their own into a part of the city that they don’t recall. That’s right. Nothing scarier than two homeless people leaning against a building with a shopping cart. [...] They go from super scared to super duper scared when a guy has the audacity to come up to their window and ask for money. Unfortunately the camera shot makes it look like the guy is posing for a mugshot. Alex wants to pull over and ask for directions. Lynn’s tip on who to choose for directions? Care to tell me how you figured out who is the least likely to have a gun? Dare I say you racial profiled an area that is currently recovering from apartheid and overcoming racial barriers desperately? I don’t get it. What’s wrong with looking like Tupac? Aren’t you guys from West Hollywood? Aren’t you supposed to love Tupac by default because of the ‘California Love’ rule?"
SyneOct 22, 2017 09:41 PM (This post was last modified: Oct 22, 2017 09:42 PM by Syne.)
(Oct 22, 2017 08:36 PM)C C Wrote: Appearance-wise, looks or sounds similar to 30 minute to one hour and longer tests that I occasionally get from a research outlet that conducts national surveys to collect data for government, company, and educational institute interests. (Bias is just one of the multitude of subject matters they probe.) When I come out somewhere in the middle to even smelling like roses to a Social Utopian Ministry, it doesn't mean diddly-squat to me.
As I doubt that the responses people give on "paper" are really going to wholly reflect how they behave, react, or think in the actual moments of everyday life circumstances. Religious hypocrisy has illustrated that for centuries, but similar applies to other ideological / cultural-tradition domains. Even if an evaluation is indirect or stealthy in its inquiries, there's still a degree of subconscious apprehension of that and potential consequent filtering through either a person's idealized view of themselves or how they regard themselves as regulated by whatever thought orientations they publicly endorse.
Clearly, you didn't bother to actually complete any of these tests. The survey questions are purely optional, and don't effect the result. The crux of the tests measure how fast you respond to each stimuli compared to the previous control you establish.
C COct 22, 2017 10:49 PM (This post was last modified: Oct 22, 2017 10:50 PM by C C.)
(Oct 22, 2017 09:41 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Oct 22, 2017 08:36 PM)C C Wrote: Appearance-wise, looks or sounds similar to 30 minute to one hour and longer tests that I occasionally get from a research outlet that conducts national surveys to collect data for government, company, and educational institute interests. (Bias is just one of the multitude of subject matters they probe.) When I come out somewhere in the middle to even smelling like roses to a Social Utopian Ministry, it doesn't mean diddly-squat to me.
As I doubt that the responses people give on "paper" are really going to wholly reflect how they behave, react, or think in the actual moments of everyday life circumstances. Religious hypocrisy has illustrated that for centuries, but similar applies to other ideological / cultural-tradition domains. Even if an evaluation is indirect or stealthy in its inquiries, there's still a degree of subconscious apprehension of that and potential consequent filtering through either a person's idealized view of themselves or how they regard themselves as regulated by whatever thought orientations they publicly endorse.
Clearly, you didn't bother to actually complete any of these tests. The survey questions are purely optional, and don't effect the result. The crux of the tests measure how fast you respond to each stimuli compared to the previous control you establish.
Stated as much with "appearance-wise". First time I entered it what I got was three or four pages of what looked like familiar survey questions (i.e., Zzzzzz), so tuned-out. Checking again later I see instead that's been replaced by the image-related judgments you might to be referring to. (The "tests" randomly shuffle what segment appears first???). But I've encountered the latter also in the surveys I was referring to (an approach that can fall under "stealthy" evaluation).
At any rate, I've done various versions of them enough times in the past -- and, again, the results mean little to me in terms of concrete life. Whether they'd earn an anointing or knighthood from a Social Utopian Ministry or a badge from a Far Right club. (Never been assessed in what might be considered the latter territory by one of the surveys, though -- but does tend to vacillate. Not the least to due my playing with them sometimes to see what happens, if they monotonously email me what looks like the same survey from weeks or months back).
Yeah, unless you're willing to acknowledge and seek to actively improve upon your implicit biases, these mean zero to your life. No idea why some extreme political/ideological opinion of these sorts of tests would matter to anyone not of the same bent.