(Oct 9, 2017 10:37 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:(Oct 9, 2017 12:45 AM),Ostronomos Wrote:(Oct 8, 2017 10:07 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: There's a pattern OS. The more science unravels the mysteries of the universe the more mysterious God becomes. As you say, outside our technical capabilities. Again this is borderline paradoxical thinking. Obviously you don't think any amount of technology will have us ringing God's doorbell and we'll need to get more in touch by using our minds to understand reality. Yet would we know about quantum mechanics by using our minds only? I think if you really want to prove God that it won't be done without science.
I believe one day science will take us to new heights of metaphysics. Where technology meets the Quantum realm, this will enable us to summon God one day. Of course we would need science and mathematics to provide us with unquestionable proof of God''s existence, but science will need to overcome certain inherent limitations first if it is to have any hope of lighting the way in a dark sea of doubt and mysticism.
My point is....you may be searching for a machine. Or if you can wait long enough, the God machine will be invented I remember years ago I convinced some guy that the universe is the result of a long lost battle between two super alien enemies and that the only way for one side to prevent total defeat was to use a super weapon designed to reboot the universe. IOW start over.
So imagine a classic battle between good and evil in which the entire battlefield reverts to a new beginning with elements from both sides along for the ride. Why do I tell you this? Just to give you another example of how it went down, anybody can conjure up a tale that explains how we got here and for just about anything else. I think a light hearted approach works but in the end it is all mythology without any real substance or evidence.
This is incorrect. There must be a logical reason for how we got here. If it does not fit into evolution or reality then conjuring up something is impermissible and wholly false. The lack of substance is due to the lack of support.