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(Star Trek community) Diversity in "Discovery" has some fans in a tizzy

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This is much ado over nothing new. Straight white men roles ceased to dominate in the Star Trek franchise over two decades ago. With hardly an eyebrow raised back then, in contrast to now.

Benjamin Sisko was the black commander later turned captain on *Deep Space Nine*. The only non-alien and non-artificial "white guy" character who was a regular on DS9 was Miles O'Brien.

Similar with *Voyager*, where there was a female captain and the only non-alien white male regular was Tom Paris. (The Doctor was an emergency medical hologram; an artificial entity).

Humans also had sex with aliens on those shows. So aside from introducing the first gay character that's a regular member of the cast, and the first asian captain of the applicable starship, there's probably little truly groundbreaking about *Discovery* except maybe this.

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Sulu was only retconned as being gay via the movie reboot of the original Star Trek, a change which George Takei surprisingly disagreed with. (LINK)

After the 1990s, the shorter-lived TV series *Enterprise* did feature at east three regular white guy human characters, but *Discovery* seems to validate that was just a temporary quirk.

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'Star Trek' fans anger at remake's diversity proves they don't understand 'Star Trek'
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainm...story.html

EXCERPT: The trailer for CBS's "Star Trek: Discovery," the latest entry in the "Star Trek" universe, feature two women of color - Michelle Yeoh as the starship captain and Sonequa Martin-Green as her first officer - as they engage the Klingon people.

It's fairly standard fare for the series, which has seen multiple entries since Gene Roddenberry created it in 1966. This new show takes place a decade before the adventures of Captain Kirk and Spock aboard the Enterprise starship, the original and most famous story in the "Star Trek" canon. What's most shocking about the trailer is how different the Klingons look, but some fans took issue with something else entirely: the ethnicity and sex of the lead characters.

As the New Yorker reported, comments such as "Where is the alpha male that has balls and doesn't take crap from anyone?" "Is everything going to have to have females in every . . . thing?" and "Star Trek: Feminist Lesbian Edition" quickly appeared on YouTube.

On Twitter, fans focused on the lead characters' race, often employing the term "white genocide."...

MORE: http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainm...story.html

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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:So aside from introducing the first gay character that's a regular member of the cast,

Everyone knew Q was gay. We just didn't discuss it.

Quote:Where is the alpha male that has balls and doesn't take crap from anyone?"

Maybe they can go visit endangered species speciman Captain Pike in the telepathic menagerie on Talos IV.
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RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Jun 24, 2017 06:36 PM)C C Wrote: This is much ado over nothing new. Straight white men roles ceased to dominate in the Star Trek franchise over two decades ago. With hardly an eyebrow raised back then, in contrast to now.

Benjamin Sisko was the black commander later turned captain on *Deep Space Nine*. The only non-alien and non-artificial "white guy" character who was a regular on DS9 was Miles O'Brien.

Similar with *Voyager*, where there was a female captain and the only non-alien white male regular was Tom Paris. (The Doctor was an emergency medical hologram; an artificial entity).

Humans also had sex with aliens on those shows. So aside from introducing the first gay character that's a regular member of the cast, and the first asian captain of the applicable starship, there's probably little truly groundbreaking about *Discovery* except maybe this.

- - - NOTES - - -

Sulu was only retconned as being gay via the movie reboot of the original Star Trek, a change which George Takei surprisingly disagreed with. (LINK)

After the 1990s, the shorter-lived TV series *Enterprise* did feature at east three regular white guy human characters, but *Discovery* seems to validate that was just a temporary quirk.

- - -

'Star Trek' fans anger at remake's diversity proves they don't understand 'Star Trek'
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainm...story.html

EXCERPT: The trailer for CBS's "Star Trek: Discovery," the latest entry in the "Star Trek" universe, feature two women of color - Michelle Yeoh as the starship captain and Sonequa Martin-Green as her first officer - as they engage the Klingon people.

It's fairly standard fare for the series, which has seen multiple entries since Gene Roddenberry created it in 1966. This new show takes place a decade before the adventures of Captain Kirk and Spock aboard the Enterprise starship, the original and most famous story in the "Star Trek" canon. What's most shocking about the trailer is how different the Klingons look, but some fans took issue with something else entirely: the ethnicity and sex of the lead characters.

As the New Yorker reported, comments such as "Where is the alpha male that has balls and doesn't take crap from anyone?" "Is everything going to have to have females in every . . . thing?" and "Star Trek: Feminist Lesbian Edition" quickly appeared on YouTube.

On Twitter, fans focused on the lead characters' race, often employing the term "white genocide."...

MORE: http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainm...story.html

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Tounge n cheek ....

Klingons are african
Vulcans are asian
Cardassians are patriarchal white men
Talaxian's are jewish
Ferengi are USA ex Brittish colonialist capitalists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakotay Native American

Deep Space nine has Romani

who is Borg ?

(Jun 24, 2017 07:52 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:So aside from introducing the first gay character that's a regular member of the cast,

Everyone knew Q was gay. We just didn't discuss it.

Quote:Where is the alpha male that has balls and doesn't take crap from anyone?"

Maybe they can go visit endangered species speciman Captain Pike in the telepathic menagerie on Talos IV.

so Qs' Fascination with Captain Janeway is what ?
 you did not know about Q having a thing for Captain Janeway.

Quote:Where is the alpha male that has balls and doesn't take crap from anyone?"


as opposed to an alpha Eunich
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Syne Offline
Rolleyes
Insecure dorks.
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#5
Zinjanthropos Offline
The Organians wouldn't give two shits so neither will I. Careful before commenting lest your keyboard radiates a temperature of 2000 degrees.
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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:so Qs' Fascination with Captain Janeway is what ?
you did not know about Q having a thing for Captain Janeway.

You really had no life in the 90's did you?
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RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Jun 25, 2017 04:55 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:so Qs' Fascination with Captain Janeway is what ?
you did not know about Q having a thing for Captain Janeway.

You really had no life in the 90's did you?

what is "90's" ?
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Zinjanthropos Offline
(Jun 25, 2017 07:25 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: what is "90's" ?

Wink
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