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A few questions about iPad-like devices . . .

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Question  BarnRat Offline
OK, Once upon a time I was hip to all the new tech but now, since I've aged, I am no longer current.  To show you how un-current I am:  I still have a flip-phone.  I am still pretty computer-savvy.  

OK, here are my dumb questions . . .

I am planning on taking a longish road trip next year, about a month, between the SW part of the US and the Midwest.  I am thinking of getting either a smart phone or a pad to take with me to keep current on things.  I don't really need a phone so I was thinking more about the pad.  If purchasing a pad, is the ISP connection similar to that of, say, an iPhone?  Will the pad have the same connectivity as the phone?
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C C Offline
Welcome to SciVillage, BarnRat.

Yes, you can get tablets equipped for that. But should you not be spending most of your time in remote places without "free" Wi-Fi access (and the kind that restricts the customer / visitor to only the host's websites), then you could probably get by without a tablet that has cellular connectivity. (And that data plan for it whose limits might or might not accommodate your needs over the whole trip). Granting also that you only plan to browse / surf online and won't be transmitting personal / important information (public Wi-Fi can be vulnerable in that respect).

Guide To Tablet Connectivity - March 06, 2017
https://www.lifewire.com/guide-to-tablet...res-832328

Using Wi-Fi vs. Cellular Data (and Why You Should Care) - September 19, 2016
http://www.wonderoftech.com/wi-fi-vs-cellular-data/

Wi-Fi and internet are two different things
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/home-network...-internet/

Ten Reasons Why Tablets Are Better Than Your Smartphone - June 14, 2016
http://www.rswebsols.com/tutorials/techn...smartphone

Traveling abroad: Do I need a smartphone, tablet, or both?
https://www.eaglesnestoutfittersinc.com/...t-or-both/

Should you buy a 4G iPad or a Wi-Fi iPad? - Updated February 09, 2017
https://www.lifewire.com/4g-ipad-vs-wifi-ipad-1994209

The Hidden Dangers of Free Public Wi-Fi
http://www.aarp.org/money/scams-fraud/in...fi-ea.html

There Is No Such Thing as Free Wi-Fi
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6116922

How to connect your tablet to the internet using Wi-Fi - 26 April 2014
https://wiki.maemo.org/How_to_connect_yo...sing_Wi-Fi

The 10 best tablets you can buy in 2017
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-com...ay-1113985

How to buy a tablet in 2017
https://www.cnet.com/topics/tablets/buying-guide/

The Best Tablets of 2017
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2413145,00.asp

Hotspot _(Wi-Fi)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotspot_(Wi-Fi)

Tethering
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tethering

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Why Bother With Wireless? Owners Stay Tethered.
http://allthingsd.com/20130710/why-bothe...-tethered/

EXCERPT: In theory, it’s a choice for lots of tablet buyers: Do you get the iPad, or Kindle Fire, or whatever, with a wireless data connection, or without one? But in reality, for most tablet buyers, it’s a non-issue. They are overwhelmingly buying tablets that have only Wi-Fi connections. Which means they can only get online when they’re within shouting distance of a router.

Analyst Craig Moffett spells it out in a recent research report on the telco industry: Only 20 percent of tablets are sold with wireless chipsets. And only half of those devices are initially connected to wireless networks. And Moffett guesstimates that perhaps half of that number end up disconnecting their wireless subscriptions (which is what happened in my focus group of one). Which would mean that only one in 20 tablets are connected to a wireless data plan....
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BarnRat Offline
(Mar 17, 2017 05:21 AM)C C Wrote: Welcome to SciVillage, BarnRat.
Thanks for the info. It will take a while to digest all of that. "I'll be back" . . . with more questions.

Can I assume that what goes for a pad-device also goes for a laptop?

While on this trip I will want to check e-mail, pay bills, do some banking things. It looks like this would be secure with cell-phone/SIM connectivity and not secure with available wifi hotspots. A dilemma.
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BarnRat Offline
I'm seriously thinking about a laptop now.  My wife and I can use it at home for backup internet access if the power fails.

If the laptop comes with the sim card adapter and a sim card, how is the wireless service provider determined?  Does each service have its own sim cards?  Or can a sim card be used for all different providers?
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BarnRat Offline
I did some more research . . .

I'm going to buy a business laptop with a sim adapter/card and all I have to do is call up a wireless provider (AT&T, Verizon, etc.), pick a wireless plan, give them the IMEI number, pay them, and I'm in business.
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C C Offline
(Mar 17, 2017 06:03 PM)BarnRat Wrote: I did some more research . . .

I'm going to buy a business laptop with a sim adapter/card and all I have to do is call up a wireless provider (AT&T, Verizon, etc.), pick a wireless plan, give them the IMEI number, pay them, and I'm in business.


Sounds great. If you should instead wind-up buying an older or ordinary laptop in the end, you can also probably get a cellular-enabling dongle from one of those providers. Just a random example:

4 great reasons to have a (Verizon) USB modem for your laptop
https://www.verizonwireless.com/archive/...or-laptop/

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How to Get 4G or 3G on Your Laptop - Updated February 09, 2017
https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-get-4g-o...op-2378203

How to Connect a PC / Laptop or Tablet Via 4G Wireless - February 12, 2014
http://www.notebookreview.com/howto/in-p...broadband/
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BarnRat Offline
Thank you sir!
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RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Mar 17, 2017 12:41 AM).BarnRat Wrote: OK, Once upon a time I was hip to all the new tech but now, since I've aged, I am no longer current.  To show you how un-current I am:  I still have a flip-phone.  I am still pretty computer-savvy.  

OK, here are my dumb questions . . .

I am planning on taking a longish road trip next year, about a month, between the SW part of the US and the Midwest.  I am thinking of getting either a smart phone or a pad to take with me to keep current on things.  I don't really need a phone so I was thinking more about the pad.  If purchasing a pad, is the ISP connection similar to that of, say, an iPhone?  Will the pad have the same connectivity as the phone?

best advice would be to get a samsung  dual sim tablet which connects like a cell phone and is a cel phone attached to a tablet.
spend the extra money to get the good sumsung one because it is worth it
the cheap ones break down in about a year and stop working.
battery technology is key also becaue its very expensive if not impossible to change the battery once it stops holding its charge after about 12 months of use.
the samsung one will probably last the longest.
and its a lot nicer using it as you sit down watching TV or a movie you can flip through your email etc and surf the net connected to your home network as a computer device while not using the cell phone connection for data.

or as CC mentions triple the price & get a laptop.

tablets like this
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/tablets...00nzkaxar/

[Image: 01_TabProSBlack-LeftOpenKeyboard-101216?...tails-jpg%24]
[Image: 01_TabProSBlack-LeftOpenKeyboard-101216?...tails-jpg%24]


$ 649.99 US$
it is a fully functioning cell phone with 2 sims
connects like a cell phone or like an additional device to a home network or can be the home network.
touch screen so you can use it like a tablet at home or as a laptop.
and has a camera on it which can be used as a video camera or stills camera.
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BarnRat Offline
Thanks for the info RainbowUnicorn. I stated a couple of posts up that I was going to buy a laptop.
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#10
stryder Offline
Welcome to Scivillage BarnRat.

What RainbowUnicorn was showing is one of the tablet hybrids, where it can be a tablet or add a keyboard to it to make it work like a laptop. (They keyboard can be removed on some models) Windows 10 sports both Tablet mode and standard desktop mode that can be switched over/between to run both apps (the term used for software written for tablets/phones) or normal OS software, so that kind of tablet can act much like a laptop. (It can run accountancy software etc if need be)

Those sorts of tablets can also be handy if you are using them for directions while driving, a laptop might be a bit more of a balancing act in that situation and phones screens are too tiny for the most part. The keyboards might be sold separately and they are usually made out of highly durable materials. This means if it was possible to break a keyboard (which is pretty unlikely) you can just get a replacement one, a keyboard in a laptop however would require having the laptop pulled apart and replaced.

I wouldn't suggest an Ipad unless you are just going to be couchsurfing, too much proprietary mandated software etc. (Forced to use a store to get apps etc unless you are willing to null-void your warranty and jailbreak)

Laptops are definitely more useful when connected to power as a portable PC, in those situations though you'll likely find yourself be able to use motel/hotel wifi to connect to (albeit depending on the hotel/motel will define what level of service you can get and how much in extras it could cost.)

Laptops can also sport DVD/Bluray and a myriad of connection points which tablets will not (your lucky to get more than two USB ports and no DVD/Bluray tray)

You can "tether" wifi from a smartphone to a tablet or laptop if you don't pick one with inbuilt sims or a dongle, however it's not the simplest of things to do and it can really screw with any dataplans. (A contract phones costs can skyrocket)

The best approach really is to have a look around, see what you like the look of, do a bit of online research yourself into the make/model and what people say and by all means ask online what people think too. That way you aren't going to be hard sold something that you aren't happy with (which is what happens if you walk into a shop and flat out buy something then and there with no research.)

As for your Road trip, funnily enough I've looking at a website that supports planning road trips (www.roadtrippers.com), since I've been helping to plan a trip kind of going East to West. It might be a little awkward to use, however it does contain some useful information when you start planning your route since it can tell you some of the things there are within a set distance of your route (Like sights to see, nearby hotels, fast food etc)

You can share your trip with other people online (To view or help amend), or of course keep it private. Even if you don't want to use it yourself, there are some routes that people have already planned that get featured there, it might give you some ideas of where you want to go and what you want to see.
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