Genetiquette

[Zinjanthropos]

I've always wondered if the same people who complain about GMO foods would accept genetically engineered cures for human diseases.

From Internet: genetic modification of humans via gene therapy is becoming a treatment option for diseases ranging from rare metabolic disorders to cancer. Coupling stem cell technology with recombinant DNA methods allows stem cells derived from a patient to be modified in the laboratory to introduce a desired gene.

[RainbowUnicorn]

I've always wondered if the same people who complain about GMO foods would accept genetically engineered cures for human diseases.

From Internet: genetic modification of humans via gene therapy is becoming a treatment option for diseases ranging from rare metabolic disorders to cancer. Coupling stem cell technology with recombinant DNA methods allows stem cells derived from a patient to be modified in the laboratory to introduce a desired gene.

i think the debate has been hijacked by alt right political correctness & ignorant opinions used as a cultural opinion.
though i am not sure one can invalidate public opinion by defiing it as ignorant, considering ignorance is generically the default for many things.
When the debate normalises the mixing of informed self studying participants with add hock passer by ignorant reactionary opinions it indubiousely detracts from the real scientific & ethical discusion.

your thread headrer should probably read more along the lines of.

"should ignorant reactionary hypocrites be denied medical treatment for which they morally oppose the methodology of?"

p.s
Mormons reject life saving medical treatment based on their moral beliefs, however i think they are the only "honest" ones in the debate when it comes to all those conservative right wing special interest groups parading as moral bastions of christianity.
the majority of those using religion to oppose medical advancement do so to maintain their own personal power and money systems to exercise mental domination of their followers(exactly like cult leaders do).

[Syne]

i think the debate has been hijacked by alt right political correctness & ignorant opinions used as a cultural opinion.

Yet it's the left that fears GMOs, even though science has widely touted their safety, and only a handful of religions that refuse medical intervention.

Mormons reject life saving medical treatment based on their moral beliefs, however i think they are the only "honest" ones in the debate when it comes to all those conservative right wing special interest groups parading as moral bastions of christianity.
the majority of those using religion to oppose medical advancement do so to maintain their own personal power and money systems to exercise mental domination of their followers(exactly like cult leaders do).

I think you mean Christian Scientists, not Mormons.
"Oppose medical advancement"? If you're talking about stem-cell research, people only even opposed public funding for such. Advancement continued just fine with private funding.

[C C]

I've always wondered if the same people who complain about GMO foods would accept genetically engineered cures for human diseases.

Heh. You can almost hear the faint litany in the background: "Franken people, franken people, franken people..." (Spoken like the crab people chant.)

In terms of historical precursors with more extreme goals, it's an anxiety that's been around for awhile. Star Trek was renown for its pioneering depiction of diversity in the future, of xenophobia becoming rare or extinct. And yet it conflictingly portrayed genetically modified humans as a menace (the Eugenics Wars, Khan Nooninen Singh stuff). So much so that such biological alterations were banned not only on Earth but seemingly in most of the Alpha Quadrant. Only in the late part of Deep Space Nine's run was a non-threatening augmented human revealed -- when it was discovered that Julian Bashir's parents had illegally enhanced him during childhood, due to his being born "slow" or mentally challenged. But the practice still remained unlawful afterwards.

[Zinjanthropos]

Speaking of which....Remember the Star Trek episode where the populace of a planet about to be destroyed, transported themselves back into time to save their asses. I guess if you were not keen on eating GMO foods and this situation presented itself, that you'd refuse to go back because you'd be forced to eat the food available then, even though genetically speaking and depending how far back you travel, the genetics of the past organism you're eating is technically altered (devolved)....lol.

[RainbowUnicorn]

i think the debate has been hijacked by alt right political correctness & ignorant opinions used as a cultural opinion.

Syne
Yet it's the left that fears GMOs, even though science has widely touted their safety, and only a handful of religions that refuse medical intervention.

Baptists oppose Genetic Engineering.
i think you may be out of the loop on this one.
Those who follow the genetic engineering debate know that religious conservatives en-mass oppose it venomousely.
these are the special interest groups who use their finacnial power to lobby government.

i am somewhat surprised and a little disheartedned you are not planely aware of this well known fact.

Left wing pro organic people who oppose Genetic engineering are of no surprise to me.

Mormons reject life saving medical treatment based on their moral beliefs, however i think they are the only "honest" ones in the debate when it comes to all those conservative right wing special interest groups parading as moral bastions of christianity.
the majority of those using religion to oppose medical advancement do so to maintain their own personal power and money systems to exercise mental domination of their followers(exactly like cult leaders do).

Syne
I think you mean Christian Scientists, not Mormons.
"Oppose medical advancement"? If you're talking about stem-cell research, people only even opposed public funding for such. Advancement continued just fine with private funding.

sorry you are quite right i have made an error.
i meant "Jehovah's Witnesses"  
Jehovah's Witness
Congregations   119,485    

Members  8.3 million

Though i would guess Jehovah's witnesses would accept computerised devices like pace makers etc if the surgery were possible with no outside blood(i beleive some store their own blood for some purposes)

christian scientists
Members approximately 85,000 worldwide

i am not quite sure what you are referring to as you move away from collective Public interfearance & manipulation and move the topic into  concepts of not targetting private research institutes ?(terrorrism?)(i.e anti abortion Rioters & Terrorists)

as for statistical relationships of population representation there is a much larger groups who do not attempt to interfear with other peoples personal lives and welfare.
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_organizations_in_the_United_States#cite_note-32][/url]if we were going to debate budget politics of shrinking lid public spending then military (including nuclear arms) & politicians special salaries for special groups boards and councils that are created add hock & then paid millions out of the public purse should also be in the same conversation.

Did you wish to change the subject ?

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Speaking of which....Remember the Star Trek episode where the populace of a planet about to be destroyed, transported themselves back into time to save their asses. I guess if you were not keen on eating GMO foods and this situation presented itself, that you'd refuse to go back because you'd be forced to eat the food available then, even though genetically speaking and depending how far back you travel, the genetics of the past organism you're eating is technically altered (devolved)....lol.

LoL scientific ignorance and common normalcy

having a flu vacination is ingesting GMO's
rough memory is that Flu is still one of the biggest killers.

if your truly anti GMO and ANTI genetic engineering then you would refuse vacinations and vacines.
Refusing them for your children is an interesting moral debate.

[Syne]

Baptists oppose Genetic Engineering.
i think you may be out of the loop on this one.
Those who follow the genetic engineering debate know that religious conservatives en-mass oppose it venomousely.
these are the special interest groups who use their finacnial power to lobby government.

i am somewhat surprised and a little disheartedned you are not planely aware of this well known fact.

Left wing pro organic people who oppose Genetic engineering are of no surprise to me.

You're conflating genetic engineering and human cloning, only the latter opposed by many Christians. Otherwise, provide your sources.

sorry you are quite right i have made an error.
i meant "Jehovah's Witnesses"  
Jehovah's Witness
Congregations   119,485    

Members  8.3 million

Though i would guess Jehovah's witnesses would accept computerised devices like pace makers etc if the surgery were possible with no outside blood(i beleive some store their own blood for some purposes)

Refusing blood transfusions has nothing to do with genetic engineering.

christian scientists
Members approximately 85,000 worldwide

You found the wrong reference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_..._practices
Members - Estimated 400,000 worldwide

i am not quite sure what you are referring to as you move away from collective Public interfearance & manipulation and move the topic into  concepts of not targetting private research institutes ?(terrorrism?)(i.e anti abortion Rioters & Terrorists)

Some taxpayers didn't want their own taxes funding fetal stem-cell research. But the government isn't the only source of such funding, so such research continued anyway.

[RainbowUnicorn]

Baptists oppose Genetic Engineering.
i think you may be out of the loop on this one.
Those who follow the genetic engineering debate know that religious conservatives en-mass oppose it venomousely.
these are the special interest groups who use their finacnial power to lobby government.

i am somewhat surprised and a little disheartedned you are not planely aware of this well known fact.

Left wing pro organic people who oppose Genetic engineering are of no surprise to me.

You're conflating genetic engineering and human cloning, only the latter opposed by many Christians. Otherwise, provide your sources.

sorry you are quite right i have made an error.
i meant "Jehovah's Witnesses"  
Jehovah's Witness
Congregations   119,485    

Members  8.3 million

Though i would guess Jehovah's witnesses would accept computerised devices like pace makers etc if the surgery were possible with no outside blood(i beleive some store their own blood for some purposes)

Refusing blood transfusions has nothing to do with genetic engineering.

christian scientists
Members approximately 85,000 worldwide

You found the wrong reference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_..._practices
Members - Estimated  400,000 worldwide

i am not quite sure what you are referring to as you move away from collective Public interfearance & manipulation and move the topic into  concepts of not targetting private research institutes ?(terrorrism?)(i.e anti abortion Rioters & Terrorists)

Some taxpayers didn't want their own taxes funding fetal stem-cell research. But the government isn't the only source of such funding, so such research continued anyway.

Soo... coming back on topic. fetal stem cell research...
how much tax money is spent in the USA on medical research ?
can the tax payer control where their tax money is spent by the government.. say for example nuclear weapons research ?

[Syne]

Nuclear weapons is not "coming back on topic."